Sand as a substrate for Goldfish

wrong. it will break down and get mixed with the sand by the GF. a thin layer is
not going to go anaerobic, but it must be cleaned just like stones. Ingrid

"Phil Williamson" wrote:

Hi all,

I've just come back from my LFS and the guy said somethings about sand that
made sense. He said that since it's so dense, all the crap stays on the
surface of the sand rather than making it's way into it. That was you only
have to vacuum the surface rather than poking into the sand.

What do you guys think? Do you like sand?

Phil...




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Kay wrote:

I have sand in all my tanks, the the neg comments has not happened to me
at all and its been a few years now. I have Tahitian Moon Sand. Grey
Coastal Sand and White sand.

Kay

I've never been hit by a bus, but it does happen. I'd suggest planting plants in
baskets personally. If you do decide to go for sand (I have bare bottom by the
way
and it looks great - I've had gravel and sand in the past) use no more than 0.25
inches
deep.

not deep enough to anchor plants. a very thin layer, just enough to cover the bottom
of the tank and then the GF move it around in drifts.

I know we got the same conversation on rec.ponds about building a pond for koi or
adding koi to a water feature. there is a difference between a tank for GF and a
planted wonderful underwater paradise with a few fish in it. GF eat landscape (even
plastic ones). GF are PETS. they arent decoration like trops. they are mostly
incompatible with landscape. Ingrid

"Brian S." wrote:

Good question Phil. I'm also wondering the same. I have live plants so I
would think it would have to be deep enough to anchor the plants in too.


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there is a difference between a tank for GF and a
planted wonderful underwater paradise with a few fish in it. GF eat
landscape (even
plastic ones). GF are PETS. they arent decoration like trops. they are
mostly
incompatible with landscape. Ingrid


Great quote, Ingrid
Can I "quote" it ?

Peter

sure... what???

"2pods" wrote:


there is a difference between a tank for GF and a
planted wonderful underwater paradise with a few fish in it. GF eat
landscape (even
plastic ones). GF are PETS. they arent decoration like trops. they are
mostly
incompatible with landscape. Ingrid


Great quote, Ingrid
Can I "quote" it ?

Peter




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I just liked the "GF are most are incompatible with landscape" thing.
It touched my funnybone.

Must be my warped sense of humour :-)

Peter

In article ,
says...
I'll try to post a photo of that
and the 100%-with-slate tank later today, to ng
alt.binaries.aquaria )



I just uploaded a photo, subject "Twin Pearlscale goldfish"
that is a photo of....well, two PS's in a tank that is 50%
bare-bottomed, the other 50% is black sand. The lighting
isn't the best to show the bottom -- the shot was taken to
show the fish.

G

Geezer From The Freezer wrote:

Kay wrote:

I have sand in all my tanks, the the neg comments has not happened to me
at all and its been a few years now. I have Tahitian Moon Sand. Grey
Coastal Sand and White sand.

Kay


I've never been hit by a bus, but it does happen. I'd suggest planting plants in
baskets personally. If you do decide to go for sand (I have bare bottom by the
way
and it looks great - I've had gravel and sand in the past) use no more than 0.25
inches
deep.

How silly was that. Hit by a truck. You remind me of the boy in a bubble
but with fish. Anyhow I have been through this with you before. So I
don't need to go there with you. I will always voice my opinion on sand
when people like you try and scare people new to the hobby.

Kay

I will always voice my opinion on sand
when people like you try and scare people new to the hobby.

Kay

Nice new book, too, on play!

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Kay wrote:
How silly was that. Hit by a truck. You remind me of the boy in a bubble
but with fish. Anyhow I have been through this with you before. So I
don't need to go there with you. I will always voice my opinion on sand
when people like you try and scare people new to the hobby.

Kay

You stated you've never had problem. Doesn't mean that problems won't arise for
others.
I'm not trying to scare anyone. At the end of the day, if its your tank do what
you like!
Like I stated, 0.25inches of sand is going to be ok. The deeper you have it the
more problems
you *may* encounter.