dogface puffer

I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for about
3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?

Thanks in advance!!
Phil

Copper is sometimes used for marine ich, but copper in a reef tank
could spell disaster. Can you quarantine him?

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"Philip & Kylene Blanchard" wrote in message
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|I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for
about
| 3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?
|
| Thanks in advance!!
| Phil
|
|

I've always had luck with curing ick by placing the fish in a bowl with
regular water. The different gravity causes the ick to implode and is
removed from the fish. Place the fish in there for 5 - 10 sec and you should
be ok.. Good luck

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"Billy" wrote in message
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Copper is sometimes used for marine ich, but copper in a reef tank
could spell disaster. Can you quarantine him?

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"Philip & Kylene Blanchard" wrote in message
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|I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for
about
| 3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?
|
| Thanks in advance!!
| Phil
|
|

"Peter Pan" wrote in message
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| I've always had luck with curing ick by placing the fish in a bowl
with
| regular water. The different gravity causes the ick to implode and
is
| removed from the fish. Place the fish in there for 5 - 10 sec and
you should
| be ok.. Good luck


Re-read the original post. He's already done this.

"Philip & Kylene Blanchard" wrote in message
news:HLAhd.353204$D%.143249@attbi_s51...
I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for about
3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?

Thanks in advance!!
Phil


Ick is often caused by stress. Make sure your parameters are good and your
temperature stable. If you find anything wrong, correct it first. Then
slowly increase the temperature for a few days. Maybe 3-4 degrees more.
Don't just crank up the heater in one shot. Increase it by 1 degree one day
, if you can, then another 1 degree, etc, until the temp is higher than
normal by 3-4 degrees. Keep it there for a few days then slowly decrease.
The ick parasite does not do as well at higher temps and you can often break
the cycle that way.

Another option is a cleaner shrimp. They apparently can be very good at
removing ick. But if you don't fix what caused the ick to start with
(stress) it will return.

Robert

"Robert Cadieux" wrote in message
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"Philip & Kylene Blanchard" wrote in message
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I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for about
3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?

Thanks in advance!!
Phil


Ick is often caused by stress. Make sure your parameters are good and
your
temperature stable. If you find anything wrong, correct it first. Then
slowly increase the temperature for a few days. Maybe 3-4 degrees more.
Don't just crank up the heater in one shot. Increase it by 1 degree one
day
, if you can, then another 1 degree, etc, until the temp is higher than
normal by 3-4 degrees. Keep it there for a few days then slowly decrease.
The ick parasite does not do as well at higher temps and you can often
break
the cycle that way.

Another option is a cleaner shrimp. They apparently can be very good at
removing ick. But if you don't fix what caused the ick to start with
(stress) it will return.

Robert

2 errors:

since ich is a parasite, it can't be caused by stress. stress can lower the
fishes natural resistance, but can't be a direct cause.

ich does extremely well in higher temps. that's why it's recommended. it
makes it breed more and faster than normal, which shortens and breaks the
life cycle of the parasite. normal life cycle is somewhere around 8 weeks.

Error? Stress lowers resistance. Lowered resistance makes ANY animal
susceptible to disease. Why do the elderly get flu shots? Parasites are
opportunists. A compromised fish is more susceptible to ich. Try reading a
few biology texts before you come off as Mister Know it All Amateur
Biologist. Sheesh.

"Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
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"Robert Cadieux" wrote in message
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"Philip & Kylene Blanchard" wrote in message
news:HLAhd.353204$D%.143249@attbi_s51...
I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for
about
3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?

Thanks in advance!!
Phil


Ick is often caused by stress. Make sure your parameters are good and
your
temperature stable. If you find anything wrong, correct it first. Then
slowly increase the temperature for a few days. Maybe 3-4 degrees more.
Don't just crank up the heater in one shot. Increase it by 1 degree one
day
, if you can, then another 1 degree, etc, until the temp is higher than
normal by 3-4 degrees. Keep it there for a few days then slowly
decrease.
The ick parasite does not do as well at higher temps and you can often
break
the cycle that way.

Another option is a cleaner shrimp. They apparently can be very good at
removing ick. But if you don't fix what caused the ick to start with
(stress) it will return.

Robert

2 errors:

since ich is a parasite, it can't be caused by stress. stress can lower
the
fishes natural resistance, but can't be a direct cause.

ich does extremely well in higher temps. that's why it's recommended. it
makes it breed more and faster than normal, which shortens and breaks the
life cycle of the parasite. normal life cycle is somewhere around 8 weeks.

you mixed up what 'caused' means.

the infestation is 'caused' by a parasite. if a fish was stressed and there
was an absence of the parasite in the tank, it wouldn't get ich. therefore
the stress didn't 'cause' the disease. it was a contributing factor.


"PhilCav" wrote in message
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Error? Stress lowers resistance. Lowered resistance makes ANY animal
susceptible to disease. Why do the elderly get flu shots? Parasites are
opportunists. A compromised fish is more susceptible to ich. Try reading
a
few biology texts before you come off as Mister Know it All Amateur
Biologist. Sheesh.

"Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
...


"Robert Cadieux" wrote in message
...

"Philip & Kylene Blanchard" wrote in message
news:HLAhd.353204$D%.143249@attbi_s51...
I have a dogface puffer who has ick, I have been doing fw dips for
about
3min. What else can I do for it, or treat it with?

Thanks in advance!!
Phil


Ick is often caused by stress. Make sure your parameters are good and
your
temperature stable. If you find anything wrong, correct it first.
Then
slowly increase the temperature for a few days. Maybe 3-4 degrees
more.
Don't just crank up the heater in one shot. Increase it by 1 degree
one
day
, if you can, then another 1 degree, etc, until the temp is higher than
normal by 3-4 degrees. Keep it there for a few days then slowly
decrease.
The ick parasite does not do as well at higher temps and you can often
break
the cycle that way.

Another option is a cleaner shrimp. They apparently can be very good
at
removing ick. But if you don't fix what caused the ick to start with
(stress) it will return.

Robert

2 errors:

since ich is a parasite, it can't be caused by stress. stress can lower
the
fishes natural resistance, but can't be a direct cause.

ich does extremely well in higher temps. that's why it's recommended. it
makes it breed more and faster than normal, which shortens and breaks the
life cycle of the parasite. normal life cycle is somewhere around 8
weeks.

"Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
...


2 errors:

since ich is a parasite, it can't be caused by stress. stress can lower
the
fishes natural resistance, but can't be a direct cause.

ich does extremely well in higher temps. that's why it's recommended. it
makes it breed more and faster than normal, which shortens and breaks the
life cycle of the parasite. normal life cycle is somewhere around 8 weeks.



Oh come on!!! You're being picky just for the sake of being picky. Do you
feel better now? Have you impressed enough people?

Bottom line, stressed fish get ick more often. The stress lowers their
resistance to this naturally occuring parasite and they "get it" just like
you and I catch the flu or a cold when we are tired, overworked or whatever.

As for the remperature, increasing it helps make the ick go away. Do you
need to know the mecanism? When I take antibiotics do I need to know how
the antibiotics are killing the germs or do I just need to remember to
swallow them once a day with water for 10 days ?

If this is the way this group goes, I'll steer clear.

Robert Cadieux

If this is the way this group goes, I'll steer clear.

If you find a group that doesnt, please let me know as it is counterproductive
and annoys me. ;o)
~John