dogface puffer

lot of attitude with some of the responders in the group of late. just
answer Q as best as you can and leave at that.

I like knowing how treatments work. I know I am not all, but there are some
of us who want to know. Thanks!

Tre'

"Robert Cadieux" wrote in message
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"Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
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2 errors:

since ich is a parasite, it can't be caused by stress. stress can lower
the
fishes natural resistance, but can't be a direct cause.

ich does extremely well in higher temps. that's why it's recommended. it
makes it breed more and faster than normal, which shortens and breaks the
life cycle of the parasite. normal life cycle is somewhere around 8
weeks.



Oh come on!!! You're being picky just for the sake of being picky. Do
you
feel better now? Have you impressed enough people?

Bottom line, stressed fish get ick more often. The stress lowers their
resistance to this naturally occuring parasite and they "get it" just like
you and I catch the flu or a cold when we are tired, overworked or
whatever.

As for the remperature, increasing it helps make the ick go away. Do you
need to know the mecanism? When I take antibiotics do I need to know how
the antibiotics are killing the germs or do I just need to remember to
swallow them once a day with water for 10 days ?

If this is the way this group goes, I'll steer clear.

Robert Cadieux

"Tre' Landrum" wrote in message
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I like knowing how treatments work. I know I am not all, but there are
some
of us who want to know. Thanks!

Tre'

Good point and I agree. I also like to know how and why. I have a degree
in science (chemistry) and a technical job so I do that alot. But not
everyone cares. Alot of people just want to know it works, not how, so I've
learnt to be a bit more "to the point".

And to be honest, sometimes you just don't have time to explain everything
and giving SOME usefull information is better than nothing.

And concerning this particular post my information was right. 1- Stress
causes ick. 2- Increasing the tanks temperature helps make the ick "go
away".

I'd like someone to say the opposite with a straight face.

Robert

OK, my turn.

:takethis:

ICK 101

First... Ick attacks host Second... Ick breeds in tank bottom Third...
Ick swims to new host (Ick can only be killed in this stage)

1. Stress does not cause Ick... Ick is a natural occurance in fish and
is fought off regularly by the immune system. Ick can become harmful
if the Fish is stressed or it's immune system is weak.

2. High Temps will not kill ick... Ick can be killed with medication,
but only when the ick is in its "Swimming" stage. This is why the
temp is increased, to speed up the cycle. The faster you get Ick to
be at a swimming stage the sooner medication can work.



Thank You, :yesmaster Danny



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"OK, my turn.

:takethis:

ICK 101"



My turn take this :-)

ICK 101 ADVANCED

"Ick breeds in tank bottom "

Not always :-)

There are different cyclic forms of ick. One requires no bottom resting stage, which can
be as short as 12 hrs, with a reduced number of trophonts (Free-swimmers). "Breeding"
takes place right on the fish. Falls off opens up and puff swimmers.



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