Herons

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
wrote:

In article ,
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

Can anyone help? I am a new Koi keeper, I put my first six Koi into my
newly built pond in November. 10 days ago when I wend down to feed
them there were only five Koi and three of my gold fish had also gone.
I have a Heron that comes to the pond every day. I have tried putting
a fake Heron at the side of the pond but the real one keeps coming
back. Any ideas on how I can get rid of it? Also since the fish went
missing the other Koi and gold fish in the pond will no longer come up
to the surface. They sit on the bottom of the pond all the time and
wont feed. Any advice would be appreciated.

I swear by the motion sprinkler, but you may have to put netting up for
awhile, since the heron has fed. Most deterrents work best before the bird
has been rewarded. And if Kathy didn't mention it in her list, fake fish,
drives them insane. ~ jan



Where do you get fish decoys???

That sounds like a marvelous idea!

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?


I put 3 pieces of 8" black plastic corrugated pipe in my pond, about 2
feet long. Used a torch to soften the cut edges before dropping in,
and put a few small stones in each to keep them on the bottom.

I've seen them in there after a heron visited this summer, so I think
it works.

YMMV
Mike


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The only way I have managed to keep herons away was to net the pond.
If
you make a frame with the net tacked on to it, place it over the pond. It
can be lifted off when you're out in the Garden.


"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"mo" wrote in message
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Can anyone help? I am a new Koi keeper, I put my first six Koi into my
newly built pond in November. 10 days ago when I wend down to feed
them there were only five Koi and three of my gold fish had also gone.
I have a Heron that comes to the pond every day. I have tried putting
a fake Heron at the side of the pond but the real one keeps coming
back. Any ideas on how I can get rid of it? Also since the fish went
missing the other Koi and gold fish in the pond will no longer come up
to the surface. They sit on the bottom of the pond all the time and
wont feed. Any advice would be appreciated.


You might try asking over in rec.ponds.

But, pond netting is usually the best option. Just keep it off the
surface,
so you don't snag the fish. If you're in the southern US, a floating
aligator might work. Some people swear by the electric fence, but it was
too
short to stop my Heron.

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In article ,
(Roy) wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:09:25 -0600, Katra
wrote:

===Where do you get fish decoys???
===
===That sounds like a marvelous idea!
===
===Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?

Yea you too, I have you kill filed..............

YAY!!!


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In article . com,
"kathy" wrote:

Go here
http://ihmp.net/@/y

The device is called a Heron Scarer.

kathy :-)


Cool! :-)

I've never shopped Froogle before.

Obviously Herons are a huge universal problem if they make products
specifically for them eh?
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Uhhh,

Put netting over your Koi pond and that's it. My grandad had the same
problem with the herons.

OK
john

In rec.ponds kathy wrote:
My labradors and I were able to scare a heron away
over a two day period.

Don't discount the power of dogs. I saw on that Animal Planet "dog jobs"
(or maybe it was the breed profile, forget exactly) show that a fish
breeder in FL uses trained dogs to scare away migratory birds. The dogs
were trained to chase and bark at any birds that try to land in their
area, but not to touch or attack the birds (thus keeping them legal in
terms of the migratory bird act). The dogs were also under constant
supervision by a handler to make sure they adhered to their training.
According to the story, it made a significant reduction in losses to have
the dogs around the outdoor stock ponds.

"kathy" wrote in message
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Options for herons
- netting the pond
- use a motion activated sprinkler
- goldfish decoy, heron goes for it first,
gives the fish time to hide in a
- black pvc pipe

My labradors and I were able to scare a heron away
over a two day period.

kathy
=================
That worked for me as well,... for about a week and they came back! Only a
net works 100% of the time.
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"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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I swear by the motion sprinkler, but you may have to put netting up for
awhile, since the heron has fed. Most deterrents work best before the bird
has been rewarded. And if Kathy didn't mention it in her list, fake fish,
drives them insane. ~ jan
=====================
The herons here took the fake fish one time,... learned their lesson and
went back to the real fish ignoring the fake completely.
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"Katra" wrote in message
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Where do you get fish decoys???

$ There was a place online that sold them. However I stumbled upon mine in
a store in Atlanta GA for $1.99 each. :-) Keep in mind that herons are
very intelligent so this is only a temporary deterrent.

That sounds like a marvelous idea!

$ Until you can get netting - it is.

Black PVC pipe for hides? The fish use that?

$ Mine didn't. The heron waits, as still as death, until the fish finally
sneak out - then they get the fish.
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Carol.... the frugal ponder...
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