need help with sick fish?

For emergency help call Jo Ann 251-649-4790 between 9-5 weekdays, or,
can try email put "help sick fish" in subject.
Subscribe to Puregold, http://list.lovemyoldhome.com/puregold/
Puregold is a list for people at all levels of fish keeping with special emphasis on
helping people new to keeping goldfish. We do talk about ponds and koi. It is a
very friendly list, no flaming allowed.
Ingrid


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List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
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Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Here we go again.

Tom L.L.
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wrote in message
...
For emergency help call Jo Ann 251-649-4790 between 9-5 weekdays, or,
can try email put "help sick fish" in subject.
Subscribe to Puregold, http://list.lovemyoldhome.com/puregold/
Puregold is a list for people at all levels of fish keeping with special
emphasis on
helping people new to keeping goldfish. We do talk about ponds and koi.
It is a
very friendly list, no flaming allowed.
Ingrid


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Its no worse than BV posting his crap.......... and advertising his
sitre now is it? Funny how lines are drawn as to who and what can be
said and considered spam and not spam...can you say
...........BIASED.........or ONE SIDED FORUMS..........

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:06:28 -0600, "Tom L. La Bron"
wrote:

===Here we go again.
===
===Tom L.L.
===----------------------------------------
wrote in message
...
=== For emergency help call Jo Ann 251-649-4790 between 9-5 weekdays, or,
=== can try email put "help sick fish" in subject.
=== Subscribe to Puregold, http://list.lovemyoldhome.com/puregold/
=== Puregold is a list for people at all levels of fish keeping with special
=== emphasis on
=== helping people new to keeping goldfish. We do talk about ponds and koi.
=== It is a
=== very friendly list, no flaming allowed.
=== Ingrid
===
===
=== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=== List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
=== http://puregold.aquaria.net/
=== www.drsolo.com
=== Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
=== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=== Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
=== compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
=== endorsements or recommendations I make.
===


REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Sooooooooooooooooolow to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS

You go Ingrid..............whats fair for one is fair for all.



On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:06:28 -0600, "Tom L. La Bron"
wrote:

===Here we go again.
===
===Tom L.L.
===----------------------------------------
wrote in message
...
=== For emergency help call Jo Ann 251-649-4790 between 9-5 weekdays, or,
=== can try email put "help sick fish" in subject.
=== Subscribe to Puregold, http://list.lovemyoldhome.com/puregold/
=== Puregold is a list for people at all levels of fish keeping with special
=== emphasis on
=== helping people new to keeping goldfish. We do talk about ponds and koi.
=== It is a
=== very friendly list, no flaming allowed.
=== Ingrid
===
===
=== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=== List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
=== http://puregold.aquaria.net/
=== www.drsolo.com
=== Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
=== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=== Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
=== compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
=== endorsements or recommendations I make.
===


REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Sooooooooooooooooolow to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Its no worse than BV posting his crap.......... and advertising his
sitre now is it? Funny how lines are drawn as to who and what can be
said and considered spam and not spam...can you say
..........BIASED.........or ONE SIDED FORUMS..........
snip

Hey don't bring me in to this. I am fine with Ingrid posting an occassional
reminder.


--
BV
Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com
http://www.iheartmypond.com
I'll be leaning on the bus stop post.

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Yes, I agree, but its certainly no different than getting a diagnosis
from a forum or newsgroup either......so to most it should matter not.

## RIGHT - if they're 5 cent goldfish from Wal-Mart. If someone gives the
wrong information HERE, or questionable information, someone else will point
it out. That doesn't happen over the phone.

If your serious about fish health get a scope and learn how to use it,
learn what to look for, and put the questions to your local fisheries
department at the local university,

## Not everyone can afford this, nor has *time* when a favorite fish is
ill. Not everyone can just run out and drain down a 5,000 gallon pond to
catch a particular fish. Not all Universities have fish depts. Mr. Joann
has not been proven to be an expert as per Tom's posts.... and she's not a
veterinarian. After the charcoal recharged with hose water fiasco and
Dimilin deal I would certainly be skeptical of any advice she gave....

and most all universities have
such a department and are always willing to help........

## I got more help then I needed right HERE on this NG when my ponds/fish
were having a problem.

Carol.... the frugal ponder...
Completely FREE softwa
http://www.pricelessware.org/thelist/index.htm
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Let us not forget another gem in the advice department.

=B7 Draw your change water ahead of time
{Good so far}

=B7 Run a couple of airstones in it for a couple of days
{Still good. But wait there's more!}

=B7 Use only the top 2/3 of the container because "all the bad stuff"
is in the bottom 1/3.
{Ding! Get the fork, we're done.}

Now, weren't we just using an airstone or three and bubbling that H2O
around at "warp speed"? Must be some pretty-smart bad-stuff to know to
stay in the bottom 2/3 of the barrel.

Lilly

ps: To Ingrid's credit she has at least removed the "leading expert"
and other references about JoAnn's alleged "credentials".

~ Windsong ~ wrote:
Mr. Joann
has not been proven to be an expert as per Tom's posts.... and she's
not a
veterinarian. After the charcoal recharged with hose water fiasco
and
Dimilin deal I would certainly be skeptical of any advice she
gave....

"Lilly" wrote in message
oups.com...
Let us not forget another gem in the advice department.

· Draw your change water ahead of time
{Good so far}

## I never did. The freshly dechlored tap water goes straight into the
tank.

· Run a couple of airstones in it for a couple of days
{Still good. But wait there's more!}

## Waste of time in my opinion.

· Use only the top 2/3 of the container because "all the bad stuff"
is in the bottom 1/3.
{Ding! Get the fork, we're done.}

## LOL!!! :-D

Now, weren't we just using an airstone or three and bubbling that H2O
around at "warp speed"? Must be some pretty-smart bad-stuff to know to
stay in the bottom 2/3 of the barrel.

## Amen! And don't we all want bubbling barrels of water sitting around
our livingrooms or apartments?

Lilly

ps: To Ingrid's credit she has at least removed the "leading expert"
and other references about JoAnn's alleged "credentials".

## I didn't bother to read it this time.....
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

At least she did say say to use SALT!


On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:20:11 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" P@P wrote:

===
==="Lilly" wrote in message
oglegroups.com...
===Let us not forget another gem in the advice department.
===
===· Draw your change water ahead of time
=== {Good so far}
===
===## I never did. The freshly dechlored tap water goes straight into the
===tank.
===
===· Run a couple of airstones in it for a couple of days
=== {Still good. But wait there's more!}
===
===## Waste of time in my opinion.
===
===· Use only the top 2/3 of the container because "all the bad stuff"
===is in the bottom 1/3.
=== {Ding! Get the fork, we're done.}
===
===## LOL!!! :-D
===
===Now, weren't we just using an airstone or three and bubbling that H2O
===around at "warp speed"? Must be some pretty-smart bad-stuff to know to
===stay in the bottom 2/3 of the barrel.
===
===## Amen! And don't we all want bubbling barrels of water sitting around
===our livingrooms or apartments?
===
===Lilly
===
===ps: To Ingrid's credit she has at least removed the "leading expert"
===and other references about JoAnn's alleged "credentials".
===
===## I didn't bother to read it this time.....


REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS