Yellow Labs - Behavior Question

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:17:25 -0500, "Conqueror" wrote:

I have been raising red zebra's with success for years now, recently started
Yellow Lab 29g tank. I ordered them online so was not able pick sexes. Ended
up with 3 males and 3 females. Very unactive fish. They all seem to sit in
nitches under the rocky boulder-like landscape, occasionally changing
positions. Sometimes just sit next to each other. No aggression yet, is this
normal behavior for Labs? Temp 82, PH 8.2, Salinity 1.008? I know I have the
wrong food, have normal OSI Chichlid flakes, will be introducing Spirulina
Flakes exclusivly this afternoon for a couple weeks. Fish were added 1 week
ago, is this inactivity their norm, or do I have a setting wrong?


Your tank is too warm. Lower the temp to 77 very slowly. Salinity
1.008? Lake Malawi is not salty (as NaCl) so why are you adding salt?

Common Labidochromis are the main exception to usual Mbuna diet.
Yellow Labs are micropredators so give them a general flake rather
than spirulina. Treat them to clean live food occasionally.


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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:17:25 -0500, "Conqueror" wrote:

I have been raising red zebra's with success for years now, recently
started
Yellow Lab 29g tank. I ordered them online so was not able pick sexes.
Ended
up with 3 males and 3 females. Very unactive fish. They all seem to sit in
nitches under the rocky boulder-like landscape, occasionally changing
positions. Sometimes just sit next to each other. No aggression yet, is
this
normal behavior for Labs? Temp 82, PH 8.2, Salinity 1.008? I know I have
the
wrong food, have normal OSI Chichlid flakes, will be introducing Spirulina
Flakes exclusivly this afternoon for a couple weeks. Fish were added 1
week
ago, is this inactivity their norm, or do I have a setting wrong?


Your tank is too warm. Lower the temp to 77 very slowly. Salinity
1.008? Lake Malawi is not salty (as NaCl) so why are you adding salt?

Common Labidochromis are the main exception to usual Mbuna diet.
Yellow Labs are micropredators so give them a general flake rather
than spirulina. Treat them to clean live food occasionally.


Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software
--
EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
http://www.easynn.com


I was apparently given bad info far as salinity level, how hard should water
be for Labs?

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:45:06 -0500, "Conqueror" wrote:


I was apparently given bad info far as salinity level, how hard should water
be for Labs?


Lake Malawi isn't very hard at all. You can add limestone or coral
gravel to make the water alkaline but you don't need extra chemicals.


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The water should have high PH & be very hard. Hardness is not a measure of
salinity. Its a measure of GH & KH. That being said. Yellow labs purchased
in most LFS now are acclimated to local water already & can live happily &
breed easily with no added help. You can add some salts to the water it does
help keep them healthy just don't over do it. Oh yeah & as NEtmax said they
are omnivores. They need meet & veggie.

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:17:25 -0500, "Conqueror" wrote:

I have been raising red zebra's with success for years now, recently
started
Yellow Lab 29g tank. I ordered them online so was not able pick sexes.
Ended
up with 3 males and 3 females. Very unactive fish. They all seem to sit
in
nitches under the rocky boulder-like landscape, occasionally changing
positions. Sometimes just sit next to each other. No aggression yet, is
this
normal behavior for Labs? Temp 82, PH 8.2, Salinity 1.008? I know I have
the
wrong food, have normal OSI Chichlid flakes, will be introducing
Spirulina
Flakes exclusivly this afternoon for a couple weeks. Fish were added 1
week
ago, is this inactivity their norm, or do I have a setting wrong?


Your tank is too warm. Lower the temp to 77 very slowly. Salinity
1.008? Lake Malawi is not salty (as NaCl) so why are you adding salt?

Common Labidochromis are the main exception to usual Mbuna diet.
Yellow Labs are micropredators so give them a general flake rather
than spirulina. Treat them to clean live food occasionally.


Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software
--
EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
http://www.easynn.com


I was apparently given bad info far as salinity level, how hard should
water be for Labs?

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:20:11 -0500, "CanadianCray"
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The water should have high PH & be very hard.

Nope, that's wrong. Lake Malawi is not hard and it's only moderately
alkaline. It is often assume that it is the same as lake Tanganika but
it isn't.


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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:20:11 -0500, "CanadianCray"

The water should have high PH & be very hard.
Source? just about anything I've read sofar disputes this? I'd very much
like to know if I'm mistaken

/tommi

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:20:11 -0500, "CanadianCray"

The water should have high PH & be very hard.
Source? just about anything I've read sofar disputes this? I'd very much
like to know if I'm mistaken

/tommi

you are mistaken
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...es.php?id=1669


Temperatu 78 - 82°F

pH: 7.8 - 8.6

Water Hardness: Very Hard




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agent smith wrote:
you are mistaken
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profile...es.php?id=1669
Temperatu 78 - 82°F
pH: 7.8 - 8.6
Water Hardness: Very Hard
Misquoted, that's what I've seen in just about any article or other read
material so far. Steve says otherwise, and I'd like to know on what he
bases this.

/Tommmi

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 04:36:26 +0100, Tommi Jensen wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:20:11 -0500, "CanadianCray"

The water should have high PH & be very hard.
Source? just about anything I've read sofar disputes this? I'd very much
like to know if I'm mistaken


You misquoted me.

I said it was wrong.

Malawi is slightly alkaline but it is not very hard.


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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 04:36:26 +0100, Tommi Jensen wrote:


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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:20:11 -0500, "CanadianCray"

The water should have high PH & be very hard.

Source? just about anything I've read sofar disputes this? I'd very much
like to know if I'm mistaken



You misquoted me.

Very true, for that I apologize, but the question still stand.
look e.g. at the other response to my post and the article it mentions,
another example of wrong assumptions if you are correct.
I said it was wrong.
which was why I asked "source?".

Malawi is slightly alkaline but it is not very hard.

/Tommi