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Old February 7th 05, 02:28 AM
Richard Santink
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Margolis wrote:
either make yourself a diy co2 system using 2 litre soda bottles with

yeast
and suger or get a pressurized co2 tank. What size aquarium?


I recently experimented with DIY CO2 reactors.. although I was pleased
with the numbers, it seemed to cloud my water a bit, and I noticed an odour.

I am reasonable sure that no sugar/water/yeast solution made its way
into my tank directly, but, are there any side effects of the yeast
method? Were the clouding and odour just symptomatic of something else?

I have since removed and discarded the contents of the reactors until I
can figure out what went wrong..

Any ideas?


Regards,

Richard
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Old February 7th 05, 12:36 PM
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"Richard Santink" wrote in message
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I recently experimented with DIY CO2 reactors.. although I was pleased
with the numbers, it seemed to cloud my water a bit, and I noticed an
odour.

I am reasonable sure that no sugar/water/yeast solution made its way
into my tank directly, but, are there any side effects of the yeast
method? Were the clouding and odour just symptomatic of something else?


The odour (I think) is the alcohol by-product of the fermenting yeast.

I too get a slight clouding when my mixtures are new and a thin white skin
thing on some of the rubber and suckers in the tank. I've read about this
white by-product on various how-to's and discussions about yeast generator
systems. According to all of these things I've read, there is no cause for
concern about the white stuff, it's apparently harmless and no-one seems to
know what it actually is. I have my own theories that it's a form of benign
bacteria from the carbonic acid, but apart from that I find the slight
milkiness in the water goes after about 4 or 5 days, when the mixture
settles down into it's middle period.

I have since removed and discarded the contents of the reactors until I
can figure out what went wrong..


Sounds normal to me, to be honest. I house my bottles in a sealed bucket and
only ever smell the smell when I change or agitate the bottles (about every
two days).

Oz


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Old February 7th 05, 02:49 PM
steve
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Ozdude wrote:
I too get a slight clouding when my mixtures are new and a thin white

skin
thing on some of the rubber and suckers in the tank. I've read about

this
white by-product on various how-to's and discussions about yeast

generator
systems. According to all of these things I've read, there is no

cause for
concern about the white stuff, it's apparently harmless and no-one

seems to
know what it actually is. I have my own theories that it's a form of

benign
bacteria from the carbonic acid, but apart from that I find the

slight
milkiness in the water goes after about 4 or 5 days, when the mixture


settles down into it's middle period.



Oz, I'm running a pressurized system and I get the same film on the
suction cups, so it's not just related to the yeast system. I think
you're right about the link to carbonic acid.

steve

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Old February 7th 05, 12:37 PM
Margolis
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"Richard Santink" wrote in message
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I recently experimented with DIY CO2 reactors.. although I was pleased
with the numbers, it seemed to cloud my water a bit, and I noticed an

odour.

I am reasonable sure that no sugar/water/yeast solution made its way
into my tank directly, but, are there any side effects of the yeast
method? Were the clouding and odour just symptomatic of something else?

I have since removed and discarded the contents of the reactors until I
can figure out what went wrong..



I've never used the diy co2 method, so I can't comment on your problems.

I can say this though, diy co2 on a 125Gallon tank is pointless. It is only
good up to about 20 gallons or so.


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Old February 7th 05, 12:43 PM
Ozdude
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"Margolis" wrote in message
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I've never used the diy co2 method, so I can't comment on your problems.

I can say this though, diy co2 on a 125Gallon tank is pointless. It is
only
good up to about 20 gallons or so.


I works on my 50Gal/200L using two 2L bottles and the Tom Barr internal CO2
reactor.

I get ~15ppm, pearling and plant growth.

2 X 2L bottle systems (2 active reactors) would work in a larger than 100GAL
tank IMO.

Oz


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Old February 7th 05, 09:35 PM
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I works on my 50Gal/200L using two 2L bottles and the Tom Barr internal CO2
reactor.

I get ~15ppm, pearling and plant growth.

2 X 2L bottle systems (2 active reactors) would work in a larger than 100GAL
tank IMO.

Oz


It definitely brought my numbers up (there are only 3 small @2"
bullheads in there), and there is NO surface agitation...

I think I might try some of those CO2 kits, to see how they compare..


Thanks,


RAS


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Old February 7th 05, 09:58 PM
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On 07 Feb 2005, the world was enlightened by Margolis's opinion about...

"Richard Santink" wrote in message
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I recently experimented with DIY CO2 reactors.. although I was
pleased with the numbers, it seemed to cloud my water a bit, and I
noticed an

odour.

I am reasonable sure that no sugar/water/yeast solution made its way
into my tank directly, but, are there any side effects of the yeast
method? Were the clouding and odour just symptomatic of something
else?

I have since removed and discarded the contents of the reactors until
I can figure out what went wrong..



I've never used the diy co2 method, so I can't comment on your
problems.

I can say this though, diy co2 on a 125Gallon tank is pointless. It
is only good up to about 20 gallons or so.



I have no problem getting 19ppm on a 55g using 2-2L bottles, swapping out
1 bottle every two weeks. I feed the CO2 directly into the venturi of a
powerhead and get a very fine bubble mist. A 125 is possible to do DIY.
4-2L bottles, rotating one bottle out a week, should provide plenty of
CO2.


kev

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