yellow lab

OT

why does top posting matter?

I hate having to scroll down to find the reply to the post i just read . . .

top posting lets me read in sequence . . .

I've always wondered why people make such a big deal about it.

Question on chemistry . . .


if pH 7 is neutral (neither acidic or alkaline)

and pH 8 is 10x more alkaline

10 X 0(neutral) = 0


back to reality (just saying 10X is not really our experience of the log
scale of pH)

a pH between 6.5 and 7.5 hardly affects the biology
my experience is that a consistent pH is far mor important (for fresh water)
than being "right on the number"





"CanadianCray" wrote in message
...
"Such a helpful post from Cray. And even top-posted to break my
newsreader. "

This I don't quite understand, but anyway.

Labidochromis caeruleus (Electric Yellow) likes hard alkaline water around
76-82 degrees with a ph of at least 8 but preferably 8.2. It is really not
a
good idea to play around with a fish's PH. Most people don't understand
how
PH scale works. The pH scale runs from 0 (acidic) to 14 (alkaline), with
neutral pH 7 in the middle. The pH scale is logarithmic, which means, for
example, that pH 5 is ten times more acidic than pH 6. So by taking a fish
that likes 8.2 & placing it in a tank with a Ph of 7 or 7.5 you are
basically placing it in water that is 10X more acidic than they are
supposed
to be in. How would you like that. Also in the wild they live between 6 to
120 feet where they feed on mostly insects & snails. So feeding them a
traditional tropical fish diet is not great.

I did not mean to sound crass before but I think people should provide the
proper environment for their fish if they are going to keep them.

Craig
________________________________
www.CanadianCray.tk
www.Bluecrayfish.com
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Hi Elaine,

Such a helpful post from Cray. And even top-posted to break my
newsreader.

Love your style ;-}

snip
Cichlids don't generally need a "buddy" though. They are quite happy as
the king or queen of their own tiny little world. And you don't have to
worry about a lone lab pairing up and breeding.


I was going to ask Craig where I made mistake but decided to check out
the specs on the fish. Most seemed compatible with my soft water- ph
about 7.5-8. Specs said all my fish would eat almost anything so I
just left it at that. You are right about the lab and soft water.
Hope he/she adjusts.

Maybe I can ask you or others about food selection. Right now I mixed
some veggie flakes, tetra mix type flakes and a pinch of dried blood
worms for each small meal. Any other suggestions?

Thanks Elaine and others who might help me on the food thing.

All the best,

Larry
Ontario

a comment on live food

I raise snails in all my tanks.
Malaysian Trumpet Snails (MTS) are the best for not messing with my live
plants.

RamsHorn are best in an unplanted tank (or a tank wiuth javamoss which grows
faster than anything can eat it)

I daily crush a few snails against the glass as a "live food" treat for my
fish.

Because it is raised in the tank it is gauranteed to have no foreign
parasites or diseases.

Clown loaches seem to eventually get all snails but MTS

weather loaches let a few RamsHorn live, but not overpopulate the tank.







"Phil" wrote in message
...
If it's HBH 8 veggie flake then it's a perfectly fine food for them, mine
thrive on it intersperces with outher foods of course. I'd be more
cautious
about the bloodworm though I guess an insectivore might be less
susceptible
to the problems other rift lake cichlids can have with them.
My water is also soft(ish) but with a high pH, as is lake Malawi, where
the
labs come from originally, so long as there's enough kH to keep things
stable then I think you should be OK, some salt added and some marble or
coral crush substrate would make it a bit harder which wouldn't hurt from
where your water is right now.
My real concern is the 26 gallon part, I know there' anecdotal evidence
that
labs are ok in smaller tanks but mine were pretty agressive even in thier
55G and didn't settle (read stop killing each other) till they got into
the
7 x 2 x2. However I did have a dispopoortionate amount of male fish which
would definately make them meaner.
I still fear that even being the only of it's kind once it gets bigger
other
fish might find thier buttocks being handed to them.

Gordon James wrote:

friendly_mudflinging

why does top posting matter?
See below


I hate having to scroll down to find the reply to the post i just read . . .
I hate having to scroll down, reading everything in my path just to know
what people are responding to

top posting lets me read in sequence . . .
not top posting lets you (and everyone else) know -exactly- what you're
commenting on, without having to cross reference to 10'ish odd posts below.
/friendly_mudflinging


I've always wondered why people make such a big deal about it.
hope this explained it - atleast in part.

/Tommi