fish euthanasia

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
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We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?
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"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:52:04 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
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We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?

Yes, sometimes I take a drink but it does not interfere with the care
I take of my fish or the enthusiasm I feel for aquaria.

Hey DL where ya been! Haven't seen ya in a while!!

Happy Holidays ...



"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
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"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
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We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?
--
"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."

The Drunken Lord wrote:

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:33:46 -0600, "Eric Schreiber" eric at
ericschreiber dot com wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

How about peeling out on him with the car?
Flushing down the commode?
Drop in a bucket of bleach?
just some ideas off the top.

None of which were any good.

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

Funny, that sort of crap never shows up in rec.ponds, must be one of yours.
It's just the typical difference between an alt. group and a rec. group.
--
derek

"HK_Newbie" wrote:
... my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions?

Years ago, I bought a small bottle of MS-222 / Finquel / Tricaine
Methanesulfonate (a fish anesthetic) for this purpose. Knock the fish out
using the "sleep" dose, then add a large overdose to finish the job. Kind of
expensive up front (around $50, IIRC), but I figure I'm going to be dead and
gone before I use up the one bottle I have, and I like to know I'm not botching
the job.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:14:21 -0700, Andy Hill
wrote:

"HK_Newbie" wrote:
... my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions?

Years ago, I bought a small bottle of MS-222 / Finquel / Tricaine
Methanesulfonate (a fish anesthetic) for this purpose. Knock the fish out
using the "sleep" dose, then add a large overdose to finish the job. Kind of
expensive up front (around $50, IIRC), but I figure I'm going to be dead and
gone before I use up the one bottle I have, and I like to know I'm not botching
the job.

There is nothing worse than an inefficient kill. Several years ago I
helped a friend of mine kill a goat to cook for the 4th of July.
Because of inefficiencies, the kill took 45 minutes. Although the
goat tasted good, I believe the experience did detract from the
flavor.

"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him
to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of
the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of
his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what
I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is
the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over
a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan

In a back issue of TFH magazine there was an article on how best to
euthanasia fish and depending on the size of the fish it was suggested that
"crushing or decapitating" was the quickest way. It also mentioned clove
oil.

Rick

"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan


This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--

We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.