Recommendation or 2 about dealing with overpopulation....

Daniel Morrow wrote:
Bottom posted.


I didn't invent or come up with the phrase "function fish", I have seen it
used on this newsgroup before. Quite frankly I would rather have one 55
gallon tank with my two silver dollars and 1 oscar than the silver dollars
with a couple mountain minnows (like now) and tons of fancy guppies with a
guppy dieing every other day. Come on guys - even fancy guppies are supposed
to live at least a year except for the high nitrates and nitrites. Could my
problem be not enough oxygen? I don't have decent transportation so I can't
get to the lfs 14 miles away one way to drop off bags of fancy guppies every
2 weeks to 1 month, I've done it before and I just don't have that much time
on my hands anymore. I doubt the bus system drivers would let me carry on
bags of fish each trip and I sure can't get to the store often enough to
keep buying rubbermaid tubs which the bus driver wouldn't allow anyways. I'm
sorry if I sound negative but when people chastise me after acting on
assumptions and incorrect information even after I have already said the
correct/accurate information here before it really saddens me - don't you
guys know me by now? I guess not. I am sorry I even asked about this
subject, geez, [goes away sulking]. :-(



If you suspect water quality problems i.e. nitrite, start daily 40%
water changes until it's ok. At the same time add more biological
filtration. Someone suggested air-driven sponge filters, and the larger
ones would be an excellent choice to use in addition to your existing
filters. The aeration due to the bubbles will be good too.

If there's truly an overpopulation problem, then thinning the population
as you're doing is a good idea. I euthanized many swordtails that were
uncontrollably reproducing in one of my tanks, in the past. I also took
some beauties to the pet store but the store asked high prices and sold
slowly, and after a month "my" fish looked unhealthy in the store tanks.

You're having 1 guppy die a week? I didn't catch how many guppies you
have, but with a varied-age population of 100 guppies that might be
normal: life span 2 years = 100 weeks = 1 death per week?

Mid posted.
netDenizen wrote:
Daniel Morrow wrote:
Bottom posted.


I didn't invent or come up with the phrase "function fish", I have
seen it used on this newsgroup before. Quite frankly I would rather
have one 55 gallon tank with my two silver dollars and 1 oscar than
the silver dollars with a couple mountain minnows (like now) and
tons of fancy guppies with a guppy dieing every other day. Come on
guys - even fancy guppies are supposed to live at least a year
except for the high nitrates and nitrites. Could my problem be not
enough oxygen? I don't have decent transportation so I can't get to
the lfs 14 miles away one way to drop off bags of fancy guppies
every 2 weeks to 1 month, I've done it before and I just don't have
that much time on my hands anymore. I doubt the bus system drivers
would let me carry on bags of fish each trip and I sure can't get to
the store often enough to keep buying rubbermaid tubs which the bus
driver wouldn't allow anyways. I'm sorry if I sound negative but
when people chastise me after acting on assumptions and incorrect
information even after I have already said the correct/accurate
information here before it really saddens me - don't you guys know
me by now? I guess not. I am sorry I even asked about this subject,
geez, [goes away sulking]. :-(



If you suspect water quality problems i.e. nitrite, start daily 40%
water changes until it's ok. At the same time add more biological
filtration. Someone suggested air-driven sponge filters, and the
larger ones would be an excellent choice to use in addition to your
existing filters. The aeration due to the bubbles will be good too.

If there's truly an overpopulation problem, then thinning the
population as you're doing is a good idea. I euthanized many
swordtails that were uncontrollably reproducing in one of my tanks,
in the past. I also took some beauties to the pet store but the store
asked high prices and sold slowly, and after a month "my" fish looked
unhealthy in the store tanks.

You're having 1 guppy die a week?

Actually they have been dieing off exponentially which is why I did what I
said below. I found 5 or 6 carcasses in the tank this morning just after
picking out about that many yesterday. They were almost entirely females.

I didn't catch how many guppies you
have, but with a varied-age population of 100 guppies that might be
normal: life span 2 years = 100 weeks = 1 death per week?

My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a ride
from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need a closer pet
shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a beautiful promising
female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and the lfs owner gave it to me
for free (or in other words for all of those fancy guppies which he says
look totally healthy and I didn't say anything to contradict that), the ride
was nerve wracking (no one else knows this) as I had to prevent the
tupperware bin from sloshing but I didn't lose even a single fish be it baby
or adult during this ride, my wrists were soar afterward but it was worth
it. I got some cichlid (I think hikari brand) gold food for the future which
only cost me less than $9.00 so I made out pretty well I think. I changed
40-50% of water just after netting out the cichlid (after proper
acclimation) and I am observing very carefully. I chose the malawi over the
oscar for a number of reasons - 1: it's prettier in my opinion (maybe just
because it is my favorite color blue) 2: it doesn't get as big as an oscar
so my tank should not be too small (I have read here that it is preferable
to have a tank bigger than 55 (mine) gallons for even just one oscar), and
3: the lfs attendant said that this cichlid should clear that tank out good
(all guppies will be eradicated and that doesn't bother me as I have plenty
of fancy guppies in other tanks after all) and I wanted a good for me
solution and I am encouraged by the effectiveness of population control.
Thanks to all of you (netmax, altum, denizen, gill, frank, etc.), I just was
getting very frustrated before taking this action today. Maybe it is a real
guppy disease but like I said the store owner said - those guppies I gave
him look extra healthy and the customers love the gravid females (saw a
number of cute kids in the store in awe of the fish I brought in) so if it
is a disease I cannot diagnose or even treat it without buying at the very
least a toy microscope and learning how to use it to do scrapes and even
then if it is a internal disease I couldn't do anything about it. I did try
a thorough treatment of formalin before and it did nothing except possibly
prevent deaths for only a short temporary amount of time. Sorry about the
negative comment netmax, I was just so frustrated doing water changes every
other day and people telling me to do more. I mean come on - all even more
water changes would have done is delay the inevitable as the fish would
reproduce even more to use up all of the good water and eventually even with
50% daily water changes there would be a lot of dead/dieing guppies yet
again. If you all don't believe in god wish me luck with my situation, if
you do believe in god pray for me? Spiritual or not wish me the best in your
own way at least? Thanks, good luck and later! P.s. My water always looks
crystal clear, what I meant in the past about water quality is the
parameters given from test kits (everything except nitrites and nitrates are
just fine) and I almost always over filtrate pretty heavily considering. I
don't know the species of this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than
some of the mutts the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Daniel Morrow wrote:

My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a ride
from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need a closer pet
shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a beautiful promising
female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and the lfs owner gave it to me
for free (or in other words for all of those fancy guppies which he says
look totally healthy and I didn't say anything to contradict that), the ride
was nerve wracking (no one else knows this) as I had to prevent the
tupperware bin from sloshing but I didn't lose even a single fish be it baby
or adult during this ride, my wrists were soar afterward but it was worth
it. I got some cichlid (I think hikari brand) gold food for the future which
only cost me less than $9.00 so I made out pretty well I think. I changed
40-50% of water just after netting out the cichlid (after proper
acclimation) and I am observing very carefully. I chose the malawi over the
oscar for a number of reasons - 1: it's prettier in my opinion (maybe just
because it is my favorite color blue) 2: it doesn't get as big as an oscar
so my tank should not be too small (I have read here that it is preferable
to have a tank bigger than 55 (mine) gallons for even just one oscar), and
3: the lfs attendant said that this cichlid should clear that tank out good
(all guppies will be eradicated and that doesn't bother me as I have plenty
of fancy guppies in other tanks after all) and I wanted a good for me
solution and I am encouraged by the effectiveness of population control.
Thanks to all of you (netmax, altum, denizen, gill, frank, etc.), I just was
getting very frustrated before taking this action today. Maybe it is a real
guppy disease but like I said the store owner said - those guppies I gave
him look extra healthy and the customers love the gravid females (saw a
number of cute kids in the store in awe of the fish I brought in) so if it
is a disease I cannot diagnose or even treat it without buying at the very
least a toy microscope and learning how to use it to do scrapes and even
then if it is a internal disease I couldn't do anything about it. I did try
a thorough treatment of formalin before and it did nothing except possibly
prevent deaths for only a short temporary amount of time. Sorry about the
negative comment netmax, I was just so frustrated doing water changes every
other day and people telling me to do more. I mean come on - all even more
water changes would have done is delay the inevitable as the fish would
reproduce even more to use up all of the good water and eventually even with
50% daily water changes there would be a lot of dead/dieing guppies yet
again. If you all don't believe in god wish me luck with my situation, if
you do believe in god pray for me? Spiritual or not wish me the best in your
own way at least? Thanks, good luck and later! P.s. My water always looks
crystal clear, what I meant in the past about water quality is the
parameters given from test kits (everything except nitrites and nitrates are
just fine) and I almost always over filtrate pretty heavily considering. I
don't know the species of this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than
some of the mutts the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Very cool! It sounds like a great solution. African cichlids are very
hardy and have wonderful colors. It's hard to know whether yours is a
mutt - closely related fish can certainly crossbreed. Are you planning
to add any more cichlids once your tank settles down? I've always
wanted to do a tank of Malawi "peacock" cichlids.

Can you find a picture of your fish or something similar? Or post one.
You need to figure out whether it's a "Hap" type, a peacock, or an
mbuna. Cichlid Gold is NOT a good food for mbuna. It has too much
protein and will make them sick. It's OK for Haps, and OK for peacocks
if you offer some algae-based food along with it.

Good luck, and I hope your new pet thrives!

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Mid posted.
Altum wrote:
Daniel Morrow wrote:

My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from
you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a
ride from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need
a closer pet shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a
beautiful promising female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and
the lfs owner gave it to me for free (or in other words for all of
those fancy guppies which he says look totally healthy and I didn't
say anything to contradict that), the ride was nerve wracking (no
one else knows this) as I had to prevent the tupperware bin from
sloshing but I didn't lose even a single fish be it baby or adult
during this ride, my wrists were soar afterward but it was worth it.
I got some cichlid (I think hikari brand) gold food for the future
which only cost me less than $9.00 so I made out pretty well I
think. I changed 40-50% of water just after netting out the cichlid
(after proper acclimation) and I am observing very carefully. I
chose the malawi over the oscar for a number of reasons - 1: it's
prettier in my opinion (maybe just because it is my favorite color
blue) 2: it doesn't get as big as an oscar so my tank should not be
too small (I have read here that it is preferable to have a tank
bigger than 55 (mine) gallons for even just one oscar), and 3: the
lfs attendant said that this cichlid should clear that tank out good
(all guppies will be eradicated and that doesn't bother me as I have
plenty of fancy guppies in other tanks after all) and I wanted a
good for me solution and I am encouraged by the effectiveness of
population control. Thanks to all of you (netmax, altum, denizen,
gill, frank, etc.), I just was getting very frustrated before taking
this action today. Maybe it is a real guppy disease but like I said
the store owner said - those guppies I gave him look extra healthy
and the customers love the gravid females (saw a number of cute kids
in the store in awe of the fish I brought in) so if it is a disease
I cannot diagnose or even treat it without buying at the very least
a toy microscope and learning how to use it to do scrapes and even
then if it is a internal disease I couldn't do anything about it. I
did try a thorough treatment of formalin before and it did nothing
except possibly prevent deaths for only a short temporary amount of
time. Sorry about the negative comment netmax, I was just so
frustrated doing water changes every other day and people telling me
to do more. I mean come on - all even more water changes would have
done is delay the inevitable as the fish would reproduce even more
to use up all of the good water and eventually even with 50% daily
water changes there would be a lot of dead/dieing guppies yet again.
If you all don't believe in god wish me luck with my situation, if
you do believe in god pray for me? Spiritual or not wish me the best
in your own way at least? Thanks, good luck and later! P.s. My water
always looks crystal clear, what I meant in the past about water
quality is the parameters given from test kits (everything except
nitrites and nitrates are just fine) and I almost always over
filtrate pretty heavily considering. I don't know the species of
this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than some of the mutts
the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Very cool! It sounds like a great solution. African cichlids are very
hardy and have wonderful colors. It's hard to know whether yours is a
mutt - closely related fish can certainly crossbreed.

I am happy to have it even if it turns out to me a mutt - whether it is a
mutt or not doesn't concern me as it is beautiful and from what I understand
hardy.

Are you
planning to add any more cichlids once your tank settles down?

I have that planned for the relatively distant future.

I've
always wanted to do a tank of Malawi "peacock" cichlids.

Can you find a picture of your fish or something similar? Or post
one.

Check these three pictures out at:

http://tinyurl.com/me69h

http://tinyurl.com/rdag2

http://tinyurl.com/op44b

You need to figure out whether it's a "Hap" type, a peacock,
or an mbuna. Cichlid Gold is NOT a good food for mbuna. It has too
much protein and will make them sick. It's OK for Haps, and OK for
peacocks if you offer some algae-based food along with it.

Good luck, and I hope your new pet thrives!

Thanks altum for the good wishes and your enthusiasm! Note there are those 2
yellow dots on this cichlid's anal fin, and believe me - the tank water is
crystal clear to the human eye and the tank is a lot brighter than my camera
shows (my digital camera is something like 1.2 megapixels and the next
digital camera I get will most likely be a cheap 6 megapixel digital camera
in the future. My silver dollars are breathing slower now apparently too.
Good luck all and later!

Bottom posted.
Altum wrote:
Daniel Morrow wrote:

My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from
you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a
ride from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need
a closer pet shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a
beautiful promising female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and
the lfs owner gave it to me for free (or in other words for all of
those fancy guppies which he says look totally healthy and I didn't
say anything to contradict that), the ride was nerve wracking (no
one else knows this) as I had to prevent the tupperware bin from
sloshing but I didn't lose even a single fish be it baby or adult
during this ride, my wrists were soar afterward but it was worth it.
I got some cichlid (I think hikari brand) gold food for the future
which only cost me less than $9.00 so I made out pretty well I
think. I changed 40-50% of water just after netting out the cichlid
(after proper acclimation) and I am observing very carefully. I
chose the malawi over the oscar for a number of reasons - 1: it's
prettier in my opinion (maybe just because it is my favorite color
blue) 2: it doesn't get as big as an oscar so my tank should not be
too small (I have read here that it is preferable to have a tank
bigger than 55 (mine) gallons for even just one oscar), and 3: the
lfs attendant said that this cichlid should clear that tank out good
(all guppies will be eradicated and that doesn't bother me as I have
plenty of fancy guppies in other tanks after all) and I wanted a
good for me solution and I am encouraged by the effectiveness of
population control. Thanks to all of you (netmax, altum, denizen,
gill, frank, etc.), I just was getting very frustrated before taking
this action today. Maybe it is a real guppy disease but like I said
the store owner said - those guppies I gave him look extra healthy
and the customers love the gravid females (saw a number of cute kids
in the store in awe of the fish I brought in) so if it is a disease
I cannot diagnose or even treat it without buying at the very least
a toy microscope and learning how to use it to do scrapes and even
then if it is a internal disease I couldn't do anything about it. I
did try a thorough treatment of formalin before and it did nothing
except possibly prevent deaths for only a short temporary amount of
time. Sorry about the negative comment netmax, I was just so
frustrated doing water changes every other day and people telling me
to do more. I mean come on - all even more water changes would have
done is delay the inevitable as the fish would reproduce even more
to use up all of the good water and eventually even with 50% daily
water changes there would be a lot of dead/dieing guppies yet again.
If you all don't believe in god wish me luck with my situation, if
you do believe in god pray for me? Spiritual or not wish me the best
in your own way at least? Thanks, good luck and later! P.s. My water
always looks crystal clear, what I meant in the past about water
quality is the parameters given from test kits (everything except
nitrites and nitrates are just fine) and I almost always over
filtrate pretty heavily considering. I don't know the species of
this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than some of the mutts
the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Very cool! It sounds like a great solution. African cichlids are very
hardy and have wonderful colors. It's hard to know whether yours is a
mutt - closely related fish can certainly crossbreed. Are you
planning to add any more cichlids once your tank settles down? I've
always wanted to do a tank of Malawi "peacock" cichlids.

Can you find a picture of your fish or something similar? Or post
one. You need to figure out whether it's a "Hap" type, a peacock,
or an mbuna. Cichlid Gold is NOT a good food for mbuna. It has too
much protein and will make them sick. It's OK for Haps, and OK for
peacocks if you offer some algae-based food along with it.

Good luck, and I hope your new pet thrives!

Check out those pictures I had previously listed as tiny urls, at
alt.binaries.aquaria . Thanks - for some reason those tinyurls didn't seem
to work so check out the pictures on the previously mentioned newsgroup -
they should be there and you could do a search for those pictures with
7009007 in their subject line. Thanks, good luck and later!

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:56 -0800, "Daniel Morrow"
wrote:

Bottom posted.
Altum wrote:
Daniel Morrow wrote:

My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from
you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a
ride from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need
a closer pet shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a
beautiful promising female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and
the lfs owner gave it to me for free (or in other words for all of
those fancy guppies which he says look totally healthy and I didn't
say anything to contradict that), the ride was nerve wracking (no
one else knows this) as I had to prevent the tupperware bin from
sloshing but I didn't lose even a single fish be it baby or adult
during this ride, my wrists were soar afterward but it was worth it.
I got some cichlid (I think hikari brand) gold food for the future
which only cost me less than $9.00 so I made out pretty well I
think. I changed 40-50% of water just after netting out the cichlid
(after proper acclimation) and I am observing very carefully. I
chose the malawi over the oscar for a number of reasons - 1: it's
prettier in my opinion (maybe just because it is my favorite color
blue) 2: it doesn't get as big as an oscar so my tank should not be
too small (I have read here that it is preferable to have a tank
bigger than 55 (mine) gallons for even just one oscar), and 3: the
lfs attendant said that this cichlid should clear that tank out good
(all guppies will be eradicated and that doesn't bother me as I have
plenty of fancy guppies in other tanks after all) and I wanted a
good for me solution and I am encouraged by the effectiveness of
population control. Thanks to all of you (netmax, altum, denizen,
gill, frank, etc.), I just was getting very frustrated before taking
this action today. Maybe it is a real guppy disease but like I said
the store owner said - those guppies I gave him look extra healthy
and the customers love the gravid females (saw a number of cute kids
in the store in awe of the fish I brought in) so if it is a disease
I cannot diagnose or even treat it without buying at the very least
a toy microscope and learning how to use it to do scrapes and even
then if it is a internal disease I couldn't do anything about it. I
did try a thorough treatment of formalin before and it did nothing
except possibly prevent deaths for only a short temporary amount of
time. Sorry about the negative comment netmax, I was just so
frustrated doing water changes every other day and people telling me
to do more. I mean come on - all even more water changes would have
done is delay the inevitable as the fish would reproduce even more
to use up all of the good water and eventually even with 50% daily
water changes there would be a lot of dead/dieing guppies yet again.
If you all don't believe in god wish me luck with my situation, if
you do believe in god pray for me? Spiritual or not wish me the best
in your own way at least? Thanks, good luck and later! P.s. My water
always looks crystal clear, what I meant in the past about water
quality is the parameters given from test kits (everything except
nitrites and nitrates are just fine) and I almost always over
filtrate pretty heavily considering. I don't know the species of
this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than some of the mutts
the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Very cool! It sounds like a great solution. African cichlids are very
hardy and have wonderful colors. It's hard to know whether yours is a
mutt - closely related fish can certainly crossbreed. Are you
planning to add any more cichlids once your tank settles down? I've
always wanted to do a tank of Malawi "peacock" cichlids.

Can you find a picture of your fish or something similar? Or post
one. You need to figure out whether it's a "Hap" type, a peacock,
or an mbuna. Cichlid Gold is NOT a good food for mbuna. It has too
much protein and will make them sick. It's OK for Haps, and OK for
peacocks if you offer some algae-based food along with it.

Good luck, and I hope your new pet thrives!

Check out those pictures I had previously listed as tiny urls, at
alt.binaries.aquaria . Thanks - for some reason those tinyurls didn't seem
to work so check out the pictures on the previously mentioned newsgroup -
they should be there and you could do a search for those pictures with
7009007 in their subject line. Thanks, good luck and later!

The tinyurls worked fine for me.

-- Mister Gardener

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:56 -0800, "Daniel Morrow"
wrote:

Bottom posted.
Altum wrote:
Daniel Morrow wrote:

My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from
you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a
ride from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need
a closer pet shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a
beautiful promising female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and
the lfs owner gave it to me for free (or in other words for all of
those fancy guppies which he says look totally healthy and I didn't
say anything to contradict that....

I don't know the species of
this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than some of the mutts
the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Very cool! It sounds like a great solution. African cichlids are
very
hardy and have wonderful colors. It's hard to know whether yours is
a
mutt - closely related fish can certainly crossbreed. Are you
planning to add any more cichlids once your tank settles down? I've
always wanted to do a tank of Malawi "peacock" cichlids.

Can you find a picture of your fish or something similar? Or post
one. You need to figure out whether it's a "Hap" type, a peacock,
or an mbuna. Cichlid Gold is NOT a good food for mbuna. It has too
much protein and will make them sick. It's OK for Haps, and OK for
peacocks if you offer some algae-based food along with it.

Good luck, and I hope your new pet thrives!

Check out those pictures I had previously listed as tiny urls, at
alt.binaries.aquaria . Thanks - for some reason those tinyurls didn't
seem
to work so check out the pictures on the previously mentioned
newsgroup -
they should be there and you could do a search for those pictures with
7009007 in their subject line. Thanks, good luck and later!

The tinyurls worked fine for me.

-- Mister Gardener

We used to call them powder blues. Someone here will have the name,
Pseudotropheus something, now changed to Metriclima something or another.
Daniel, you got a herbivore to eat your Guppies ;~). From the egg spots,
it might be a male, but from the size and length of the abdominal cavity,
I suspect that it's an old female.

So that was my expert advice, can't remember the name and it's definitely
a male or a female ;~) but he/she is a vegetarian (I think). In any
case, it will probably still lay devastation to your Guppy farm.
--
www.NetMax.tk

"NetMax" wrote in message
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So that was my expert advice, can't remember the name and it's definitely
a male or a female ;~) but he/she is a vegetarian (I think). In any case,
it will probably still lay devastation to your Guppy farm.
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at least 99% of them). In desperation I gave all mine away. I knew if I
even kept one pair I'd be over run with them in months.
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http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z

When she is best by a man she accuse him of stalking

http://tinyurl.com/8wryt

She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's, and she has been doing this for
the last 10 years.
She also claims she is an expert on Fis and aquariums. This has been a
confirmed lie as well. All her advice comes from other sources, which
plagerize and claims as her own.

Before you reply to her on any topic , you may want to ask her a few
things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post?

On the topic of JW's does she present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on a religious organization in good standing in almost
every country in the world?


O the topic of fish, ask where she got her information, and since she
replies on several aquarium newsgroups, where does she gets the time to
do what she claim she does?
an analysis oof he usenet posting indicates sge is glued to her
keyboard harrassing JW's.

Carol is well known Nut case in Mt Juliet TN. Don't belive me? Call
her Sheriff, they will tell you stories; call them yourselves:

Rutherford County Sheriff's Office
940 New Salem Highway
Murfreesboro, Tennessee 37129
615-898-7770

In any case ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with
your conversation with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time
and bandwidth on discussing subjects based on fraudulent and
fabricated information. This is how she manipulates clueless
bystanders in participating with her distributing false information
elsewhere?

Facts about Carol:

*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why
bring it up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:



If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic you can report her. Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and
you may report her by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or by writing to:

DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA

Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com

Why does Carol behave as she does?


Carolyn Adamo Gulley of Mt Juliet Tn. Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as a biker gangsters
in the 60's and 70's. She claims on her former website that she has 2
failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.


She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since. This has made her a very mentally unstable
woman, her hatred is intense, and due to biker-substance abuse
lifestyle, she now needs aid of a pacemaker.

By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries., and that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.

NetMax wrote:
"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:56 -0800, "Daniel Morrow"
wrote:


Bottom posted.
Altum wrote:

Daniel Morrow wrote:


My solution (knock on wood....) was to do both recommendations from
you
all - I took in hundreds of guppies in a tupperware tote/box with a
ride from one of the family under duress (sort of emergency, I need
a closer pet shop....) and I got a lake malawi cichlid (just one - a
beautiful promising female) which normally cost 19.99 I believe and
the lfs owner gave it to me for free (or in other words for all of
those fancy guppies which he says look totally healthy and I didn't
say anything to contradict that....


I don't know the species of
this malawi cichlid but it is must prettier than some of the mutts
the tank and mine might be a mutt I am guessing?

Very cool! It sounds like a great solution. African cichlids are
very
hardy and have wonderful colors. It's hard to know whether yours is
a
mutt - closely related fish can certainly crossbreed. Are you
planning to add any more cichlids once your tank settles down? I've
always wanted to do a tank of Malawi "peacock" cichlids.

Can you find a picture of your fish or something similar? Or post
one. You need to figure out whether it's a "Hap" type, a peacock,
or an mbuna. Cichlid Gold is NOT a good food for mbuna. It has too
much protein and will make them sick. It's OK for Haps, and OK for
peacocks if you offer some algae-based food along with it.

Good luck, and I hope your new pet thrives!

Check out those pictures I had previously listed as tiny urls, at
alt.binaries.aquaria . Thanks - for some reason those tinyurls didn't
seem
to work so check out the pictures on the previously mentioned
newsgroup -
they should be there and you could do a search for those pictures with
7009007 in their subject line. Thanks, good luck and later!


The tinyurls worked fine for me.

-- Mister Gardener


We used to call them powder blues. Someone here will have the name,
Pseudotropheus something, now changed to Metriclima something or another.
Daniel, you got a herbivore to eat your Guppies ;~). From the egg spots,
it might be a male, but from the size and length of the abdominal cavity,
I suspect that it's an old female.

So that was my expert advice, can't remember the name and it's definitely
a male or a female ;~) but he/she is a vegetarian (I think). In any
case, it will probably still lay devastation to your Guppy farm.

I suspected male because of the egg spots but you could well be
right...certainly a Mbuna isn't carniverous (mine will take some brine
shrimp but nothing else unless they are munching on fry) - I feed mine
Spirulina Sticks. I would guess that they eat fry as well or I would be
even more overrun than I am right now in the Malawi tank.

Nice looking fish though...watch out Daniel, you will get hooked on them :-)

Gill