How many sea urchins can I sustain in my Nano

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Better to wait. I've kept them in a reef tank before, but after a while
it's like "ok enough is enough". They are beneficial on the reef, but in
a reef tank you want a more perfect environment. It's like bugs being
beneficial to the environment, but you don't want them eating your garden.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Thanks Wayne....I will wait until I get the larger tank (soon I hope
just waiting for the LFS to get one in stock - new model and all
that)....and then wait again til everything is right to sustain this
sort of creature.....the one advantage with waiting is that everything
is so darn expensive you need to anyway or you will bankrupt yourself -
lol.....maybe they will hold one for me (I mean the long spined black
one that I just think is so cooool at the moment - if they won't it just
isn't meant to be....)

Thanks
Gill

I'm sure finding an Urchin when thre time comes wil not be a big
issue. Their spines are just like ceramic. I have been stuck a few
times with them while scuba diving. Worst part is if your diving a
sunk boat etc and bump yu r head into one. Those spoines break off
and even with a tweezers or forceps are next to impossible to pull out
as they just crumble up. How do they ship them without them puncturing
a whole in the plastic bags?

I can not say anything about folks keeping stuff I would not keep as I
am not the one to throw rocks in that direction. I have a tank I call
the Undesireables Tank.it has all the critters that folks normally
flush when found. Little mean gorilla crab living along with a nice
mantis shrimp, lots and lots of aipstsia, some really nice green pink
and tan manjano anemones, a super large bristle worm, a rogue hermit
crab, who did nothing but continually scrape my coraline off my
liverocks, and hundreds of asterina starfish. Hmmm. maaybe a small
urchin could go just fine in that tank......certainly nothing in there
for it to hurt....dunno how it would get along with the mantis
though...

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:40:25 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Better to wait. I've kept them in a reef tank before, but after a while
it's like "ok enough is enough". They are beneficial on the reef, but in
a reef tank you want a more perfect environment. It's like bugs being
beneficial to the environment, but you don't want them eating your garden.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Thanks Wayne....I will wait until I get the larger tank (soon I hope
just waiting for the LFS to get one in stock - new model and all
that)....and then wait again til everything is right to sustain this
sort of creature.....the one advantage with waiting is that everything
is so darn expensive you need to anyway or you will bankrupt yourself -
lol.....maybe they will hold one for me (I mean the long spined black
one that I just think is so cooool at the moment - if they won't it just
isn't meant to be....)

Thanks
Gill



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Gill Passman wrote:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
And they will from time to time eat some of your coral as well.

So do you think I should resist for now and wait until I get the bigger
tank and then just keep one in there as well if I am really set on them?
My clowns are already prone to nip at my corals and I don't want a two
pronged attack so to speak....and in a 15g Nano there is less food
available and less margin for error....

You might consider a blue tuxedo urchin. However, they will die if
there's not algae, macro or hair. And though they will eat some coraline
algae, they won't bother any corals.

Mike

How many cripples you insult today Roy Hauer?

"Tristan" wrote in message
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I'm sure finding an Urchin when thre time comes wil not be a big
issue. Their spines are just like ceramic. I have been stuck a few
times with them while scuba diving. Worst part is if your diving a
sunk boat etc and bump yu r head into one. Those spoines break off
and even with a tweezers or forceps are next to impossible to pull out
as they just crumble up. How do they ship them without them puncturing
a whole in the plastic bags?

I can not say anything about folks keeping stuff I would not keep as I
am not the one to throw rocks in that direction. I have a tank I call
the Undesireables Tank.it has all the critters that folks normally
flush when found. Little mean gorilla crab living along with a nice
mantis shrimp, lots and lots of aipstsia, some really nice green pink
and tan manjano anemones, a super large bristle worm, a rogue hermit
crab, who did nothing but continually scrape my coraline off my
liverocks, and hundreds of asterina starfish. Hmmm. maaybe a small
urchin could go just fine in that tank......certainly nothing in there
for it to hurt....dunno how it would get along with the mantis
though...

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:40:25 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Better to wait. I've kept them in a reef tank before, but after a
while
it's like "ok enough is enough". They are beneficial on the reef,
but in
a reef tank you want a more perfect environment. It's like bugs
being
beneficial to the environment, but you don't want them eating your
garden.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Thanks Wayne....I will wait until I get the larger tank (soon I hope
just waiting for the LFS to get one in stock - new model and all
that)....and then wait again til everything is right to sustain this
sort of creature.....the one advantage with waiting is that everything
is so darn expensive you need to anyway or you will bankrupt
yourself -
lol.....maybe they will hold one for me (I mean the long spined black
one that I just think is so cooool at the moment - if they won't it
just
isn't meant to be....)

Thanks
Gill



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

wrote:


You might consider a blue tuxedo urchin. However, they will die if
there's not algae, macro or hair. And though they will eat some coraline
algae, they won't bother any corals.

Mike

I did some googling and that looks as if it has a pretty neat colour -
my little pin-cushion is pink but has the same habit of picking up all
sorts of mess when trundling about - empty hermit shells being the most
alarming but it does shed them itself eventually.....I think from
research so far that the long spined I was looking at might be a bit
more of a problem......

As far as algae to feed the thing - not an issue in my tank - it's just
over 4 months and coming under control but still plenty pickings for all
:-( Of course, the issue is long term.....then I guess it is added food
if I really want to keep these things - but I do like them..... :-)

Gill

Look around you Roy Tristan Hauer in these groups on USENET..
Just how many folks actrually hold a on topic conversation with you once
they read your slanderous depraved sex posts?
HOw many can you converse with , without getting into a ****ing
contest in short order. Just Gill. Anyone with 2 brain cells killfiled you
long ago.
HOw many questions can you answer without stealing the answers and
materials from others?
How many here would be willing to trust "YOU" at your word?
How many here gives a rats ass about what you post or say anymore? Eveyone
got you killfiled.
Ho9w many here have been in contact with you "behind" the scenes by
way of Email and phone in the last month or two, to disscuss .....what
else "YOU" to try and placate you and convice you to stop trolling.

I bet you can not even answer a yes or give a number other than "0" to
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If it was not for Suicide Prone Ed Alston you would not have anyone to
converse and conive with would you worthless semi literate 4F er.
If it was not for your sock puppets you would be a lonely old redneck swamp
drunk.
If it was not for rec.ponds you would not have any entertainment would
you Roy Tristan. You need carol to build your whale **** low ego.
If it was not for porn, you may even have a wife that notices you!
If it was not fro Ed, Myself and others yu would have created an
even bigger mess in the usenet groups with your depravity and hate.
If it wa snot for newbies you woul dnot have a chance to give info,
but we all see how long your chance at putting ouot erroneous info
lasts......about 1 post till your slapped down for spewing erroneous
crap and bull**** about peole, always cripples and old ladies! 2 Posts
until your totally ignored on the
post/topic totally.
Face it, your a hypocrite, a habitual liar, a drunk and a barely literate
loser.....any way you look at it. NOt
justb any loser, but a big dumb loser without anyone in life that
gives a rats ass that really means something so you come on usenet to get
your rocks off.YOu can tell by the
folks you patronize that hang with you.....al have low self esteem like
Antonio, no morale
fibre, poor famioly life with parents who yu did not know or who did
not care as they to were illiterate swamp trash......and a well known
abusive upbringing with no regards for
anyones beliefs..........your a real classic Roy Tristan.....

Gill Passman wrote:
wrote:


You might consider a blue tuxedo urchin. However, they will die if
there's not algae, macro or hair. And though they will eat some coraline
algae, they won't bother any corals.

As far as algae to feed the thing - not an issue in my tank - it's just
over 4 months and coming under control but still plenty pickings for all
:-( Of course, the issue is long term.....then I guess it is added food
if I really want to keep these things - but I do like them..... :-)

As long as there's any algae, they're OK. If you have a refugium, you
will likely have enough macro algae getting into the tank after the
hair algae's gone to keep 'em happy.

Mike