snails

I have been posting and reading in the goldfish news group about snails.
and it seems as if some posters feel that snails are danggerious to
their goldfish. Basically buying plants and the snails on the plants
having diseases. what my question here is, how many people here have had
a fish get sick or die due to a snail?

Kay

I have not had any sickness or problems in
my pond. I have only lost fish due to winter conditions I didn't get ahead of.
That said if I had fish that I was
very attached to or very valuable I would be
careful with snails.
When buying plants you can soak them in a solution (jj or ingrid will post and
let you know
the procedure) that will kill the snails and deal with any eggs. You can also
physically search for the eggs which usually look like a strip of clear jelly.
Mystery and Apple snails lay eggs that look like clumps of salmon eggs.

I like the variety and scope of a pond where all are welcome, including
predators and creepy crawlies. But I also admire and understand ponders who
raise fish for pets and pure loverlyness ;-)

Will be interested to read other posts to this thread.


kathy :-)
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Ka30P wrote:

I have not had any sickness or problems in
my pond. I have only lost fish due to winter conditions I didn't get ahead of.
That said if I had fish that I was
very attached to or very valuable I would be
careful with snails.
When buying plants you can soak them in a solution (jj or ingrid will post and
let you know
the procedure) that will kill the snails and deal with any eggs. You can also
physically search for the eggs which usually look like a strip of clear jelly.
Mystery and Apple snails lay eggs that look like clumps of salmon eggs.

I like the variety and scope of a pond where all are welcome, including
predators and creepy crawlies. But I also admire and understand ponders who
raise fish for pets and pure loverlyness ;-)

Will be interested to read other posts to this thread.


kathy :-)
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I wanted to see how many people had illiness to their fish from snails
because I disagree with Ingrid on the instances. I know there a black
spot disease that come from infected snails, but I think that its not
common at all, if not rare, with snails that hitch a ride on a plant
bought from a petstore. Since lots of people if not all have goldfish,
koi I wanted to see if anyone had fish sick from snails and if so what
did they do and what illiness. Basically like a poll of fish keepers
with pond and aquariums.

Thanks for the info,

Kay

Let's see, it might help to know what kind of
snails folks have.

ramshorn (or orb snail), little pond snail (lots and lots of these), pointed
winkle and japanese trapdoor.

I've made an effort, when buying plants, to collect different types from the
growing pond.

No fish disease noticed.

I feel nursery snails are safe. Snails from the wild I don't think I'd bring
into my ponds. I've never added plants from the wild into my pond except by
seed (cord grass, cattails and rush) or birdy business (bladderwort).


kathy :-)
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"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

Let's see, it might help to know what kind of
snails folks have.

ramshorn (or orb snail), little pond snail (lots and lots
of these), pointed
winkle and japanese trapdoor.

yep yep huh? yep. (Don't know what a pointed
winkle is.)

I've made an effort, when buying plants, to collect
different types from the
growing pond.

No fish disease noticed.

Ditto. But I only have minnows and common
goldfish/comets/shubunkin. I have had fish die
(not recently), but have no idea what caused it.

I feel nursery snails are safe. Snails from the wild I
don't think I'd bring
into my ponds. I've never added plants from the wild into
my pond except by
seed (cord grass, cattails and rush) or birdy business
(bladderwort).

Except for the Japanese trapdoors, which I
bought on purpose, all of my snails have come
in on plants purchased locally. If they're
diseased I haven't noticed but not sure what
to look for.

kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a
pond/A

Gail

Most people have no idea why their fish die. And frankly, it isnt my opinion that
snails are not a good "companion" animal for pond fish. It is the opinion of the
experts that breed fish, the experts that write the text books. I did start out my
graduate studies in parasitology, so I have enough information to be very impressed
with how nasty parasites are that spread thru intermediate hosts.
consider that the dermal variety of schistosomiasis AKA swimmers itch is spread by
snails... and the Pond Lady was getting horrendous itching and sores on arms and legs
from her ponds.
as for people buying snails to put in their pond... whatever winds your motor
applies.
Ingrid

Kay wrote:
I wanted to see how many people had illiness to their fish from snails
because I disagree with Ingrid on the instances. I know there a black
spot disease that come from infected snails, but I think that its not
common at all, if not rare, with snails that hitch a ride on a plant
bought from a petstore. Since lots of people if not all have goldfish,
koi I wanted to see if anyone had fish sick from snails and if so what
did they do and what illiness. Basically like a poll of fish keepers
with pond and aquariums.Kay



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Ingrid wrote as for people buying snails to put in their pond... whatever
winds your motor
applies.

Personally I blame my parents ;-)
They let me spend way too much time with a dixie cup in hand trying to catch
salmon fry at the edge of Deer Crick. I've been hooked on things that live in
water ever since.


kathy :-)
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Ka30P wrote:
Ingrid wrote as for people buying snails to put in their pond... whatever
winds your motor
applies.

Personally I blame my parents ;-)
They let me spend way too much time with a dixie cup in hand trying to catch
salmon fry at the edge of Deer Crick. I've been hooked on things that live in
water ever since.


kathy :-)
A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A

We spent our time looking for crayfish in Wissahican Crick.

--
Bonnie
NJ

wrote:
Most people have no idea why their fish die. And frankly, it isnt my opinion that
snails are not a good "companion" animal for pond fish. It is the opinion of the
experts that breed fish, the experts that write the text books. I did start out my
graduate studies in parasitology, so I have enough information to be very impressed
with how nasty parasites are that spread thru intermediate hosts.
consider that the dermal variety of schistosomiasis AKA swimmers itch is spread by
snails... and the Pond Lady was getting horrendous itching and sores on arms and legs
from her ponds.
as for people buying snails to put in their pond... whatever winds your motor
applies.
Ingrid

Kay wrote:

I wanted to see how many people had illiness to their fish from snails
because I disagree with Ingrid on the instances. I know there a black
spot disease that come from infected snails, but I think that its not
common at all, if not rare, with snails that hitch a ride on a plant
bought from a petstore. Since lots of people if not all have goldfish,
koi I wanted to see if anyone had fish sick from snails and if so what
did they do and what illiness. Basically like a poll of fish keepers
with pond and aquariums.Kay






I think lots of animals can carry just about anything that a snail can.
And being a breeder for money it would make sense to keep to a single
specie enviorment, but I refuse to believe a snail on the average can
kill a fish by hitching a ride on a plant from a LFS.

Kay

Kay,

I am a breeder and I have snails in my ponds and my
aquariums.

She will never respond to me, because I prove her wrong
off and on through the years and this has been going on
in exchanges for years, so I have been on her kill list
for years, but go ahead and ask which breeders and
which writers of books. I have almost every book every
written about Goldfish and snails are always listed as
companions to Goldfish.

Ingrid says stuff and never backs it up, but beings she
says it it must be true, or so she believes.

Tom L.L.
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Kay wrote:

wrote:

Most people have no idea why their fish die. And frankly, it isnt my
opinion that
snails are not a good "companion" animal for pond fish. It is the
opinion of the
experts that breed fish, the experts that write the text books. I did
start out my
graduate studies in parasitology, so I have enough information to be
very impressed
with how nasty parasites are that spread thru intermediate hosts.
consider that the dermal variety of schistosomiasis AKA swimmers itch
is spread by
snails... and the Pond Lady was getting horrendous itching and sores
on arms and legs
from her ponds. as for people buying snails to put in their pond...
whatever winds your motor
applies.
Ingrid

Kay wrote:

I wanted to see how many people had illiness to their fish from
snails because I disagree with Ingrid on the instances. I know there
a black spot disease that come from infected snails, but I think that
its not common at all, if not rare, with snails that hitch a ride on
a plant bought from a petstore. Since lots of people if not all have
goldfish, koi I wanted to see if anyone had fish sick from snails and
if so what did they do and what illiness. Basically like a poll of
fish keepers with pond and aquariums.Kay







I think lots of animals can carry just about anything that a snail can.
And being a breeder for money it would make sense to keep to a single
specie enviorment, but I refuse to believe a snail on the average can
kill a fish by hitching a ride on a plant from a LFS.

Kay