fish euthanasia

Thanks for the suggestions folks, I figured the best and fastest way to do
it was with the chinese butcher knife and to my surprise it was very fast
for the fish and I kept all digits.
I'm not sure about the leaving it out to try thing or the other "inventive"
suggestions, but the anesthetic idea's piqued my interest and I may buy some
in the future and try it out.

---Ryan

"george" wrote in message
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"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes
if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle.
If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground
until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

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We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air
has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not
only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from
the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are
denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.

IMHO taking a fish out of water to put it out of misery would be akin to
tossing you into the pond and holding you under to end your suffering.

BV.

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"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes
if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle.
If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground
until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--

We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air
has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not
only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from
the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are
denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.

IMHO taking a fish out of water to put it out of misery would be akin to
tossing you into the pond and holding you under to end your suffering.

BV.


Would you rather that it languish for days in the pond until it dies? Oh, and
last time I looked, fish were not people. Are you suggesting that they are? Do
you eat fish? If so, does that make your a murderer?

"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes
if you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If
you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground
until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?


My Pleco laid on the front room floor for hours and had the cats playing
with him before we found him. We thought he was a goner, but we put him back
in the tank anyhow. That night when we got home, he was breathing. For an
entire week he just sat there growing fungus and gasping. He lost his fins
and scales and was really a miserable looking wretch. But he healed, grew
back most of his fins, and today enjoys a leasurely existance in EthelMs
botanical garden in Henderson, Nevada. I'm not sure about goldfish, but some
fish can live for hours or days out of the water.

Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture for
fertalizer later.

"Bill Oertell" wrote in message
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Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount
of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture
for
fertalizer later.



I haven't had to put a fish down yet.......

I don't recon I could do it......

But it would have to be the quicket I recon...........

Bill Oertell wrote:

Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small
amount of water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can
use the mixture for fertalizer later.

That approach, while I agree is probably extremely fast, suffers from
one severe problem - your wife killing you for using her blender that
way.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

"Bill Oertell" wrote in message
...
Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount
of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture
for
fertalizer later.

You can't be serious. Can you?

BV.

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"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle. If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground until
he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?


My Pleco laid on the front room floor for hours and had the cats playing with
him before we found him. We thought he was a goner, but we put him back in the
tank anyhow. That night when we got home, he was breathing. For an entire week
he just sat there growing fungus and gasping. He lost his fins and scales and
was really a miserable looking wretch. But he healed, grew back most of his
fins, and today enjoys a leasurely existance in EthelMs botanical garden in
Henderson, Nevada. I'm not sure about goldfish, but some fish can live for
hours or days out of the water.

Was he on his last fin, so to speak, before he jumped out (I asssumed that he
jumped out)? You're missing the point. The guy said his fish was nearly dead.
If that is the case, it certainly is not going to linger long after pulling it
out of the water.

Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
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