Internal Filter for Goldfish

"carlrs" wrote in message
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I just do no want to see
aquarists throw their money away. Fluvals can and do work, there are
just better options at better prices out there.
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What would you recommend in a canister for a heavily planted 55g tank of
goldfish? My crappy old Fluval is out in the outbuilding with a broken lid
clamp (both valves broke within the first few months I had it). What in
your opinion is a BETTER filter at a better price? The Eihms (sp?) are out
of sight.........
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Aquariums since 1952
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I would recommend the Via Aqua 750 or the Jebo, and to a lessor degree
the Magnum 350 (reliable, but less capacity). And yes the Eheims are
excellent, but their price is out of site. As for valves, I replace all
my valves on my service route with hardware store ball valves mated
with hose barbs, as no aquarium canister filter comes with durable
valvles.
Carl
My site: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/

"carlrs" wrote in message
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I would recommend the Via Aqua 750 or the Jebo, and to a lessor degree
the Magnum 350 (reliable, but less capacity). And yes the Eheims are
excellent, but their price is out of site. As for valves, I replace all
my valves on my service route with hardware store ball valves mated
with hose barbs, as no aquarium canister filter comes with durable
valvles.
Carl
My site: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/
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Thanks!
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:41:55 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"carlrs" wrote in message
roups.com...
I just do no want to see
aquarists throw their money away. Fluvals can and do work, there are
just better options at better prices out there.

As you know I'm no expert, but I think the renaXP's bear looking into.
I have an XP3 on a heavily planted 55gal tropical tank. It's very
simple to use, maintain, & setup. It has a lot of space for media,
and set me back about $100. (the XP2 I think is around $80). At
first I thought it was overkill, but not really anymore. I find it
powerful enough to literally clear up cloudiness before my eyes, while
at the same time my mess of large angels are very happy with the
minimal current. It's only been running for 4 months but both fish
and owner are happy FWIW. Of course YMMV.

Jolly Fisherman wrote:
As you know I'm no expert, but I think the renaXP's bear looking into.
I have an XP3 on a heavily planted 55gal tropical tank. It's very
simple to use, maintain, & setup. It has a lot of space for media,
and set me back about $100. (the XP2 I think is around $80). At
first I thought it was overkill, but not really anymore.

I have used the Jebos with great success, but the Via Aqua 750 (almost
identical filters) costs $79.99 and compares to the XP3, which is why I
now use the 750s. Either way, both are excellent filters, and I have
seen the kind of results referred to above.
Carl
Aquarium design and maintenance since 1977
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/

Moments before spontaneously combusting Jolly Fisherman at
was heard opining:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:41:55 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"carlrs" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just do no want to see
aquarists throw their money away. Fluvals can and do work, there are
just better options at better prices out there.

As you know I'm no expert, but I think the renaXP's bear looking into.
I have an XP3 on a heavily planted 55gal tropical tank. It's very
simple to use, maintain, & setup. It has a lot of space for media,
and set me back about $100. (the XP2 I think is around $80). At
first I thought it was overkill, but not really anymore. I find it
powerful enough to literally clear up cloudiness before my eyes, while
at the same time my mess of large angels are very happy with the
minimal current. It's only been running for 4 months but both fish
and owner are happy FWIW. Of course YMMV.
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Thanks,... I've been looking at the Rena's in my mail order catalogs. Since
my 55s also have the larger Aquaclears running on them I can probably get
the XP1. I'm going to see if I can get a better price than the $69.99 F&S
is advertising them for. I had such a bad experience with the Fluvals I
hesitate to even consider them again, and the Eheims are totally out of our
price range.

I'm going to do some Googling before I make a selection......
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On 20 Mar 2006 20:20:01 -0800, "carlrs"
wrote:

Jolly Fisherman wrote:
As you know I'm no expert, but I think the renaXP's bear looking into.
I have an XP3 on a heavily planted 55gal tropical tank. It's very
simple to use, maintain, & setup. It has a lot of space for media,
and set me back about $100. (the XP2 I think is around $80). At
first I thought it was overkill, but not really anymore.

I have used the Jebos with great success, but the Via Aqua 750 (almost
identical filters) costs $79.99 and compares to the XP3, which is why I

It probably is a fine filter but AFAIK gph it is somewhere inbetween
the XP2 & XP3 but uses 16 more watts. Perhaps that's quibbling as
they both have 3 generous media baskets and are generally quiet. I
know the XPs come with a nice plumbing kit, sponge filters &
BioChemZorb. I'm not 100% sure about the Via Aqua package. If it's
cheaper I guess that is less important.

now use the 750s. Either way, both are excellent filters, and I have
seen the kind of results referred to above.
Carl

I don't mean to imply the result are unique. IMHO that's what they're
all _supposed_ to perform.

Aquarium design and maintenance since 1977
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:33:37 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Jolly Fisherman at
was heard opining:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:41:55 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"carlrs" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just do no want to see
aquarists throw their money away. Fluvals can and do work, there are
just better options at better prices out there.

As you know I'm no expert, but I think the renaXP's bear looking into.
I have an XP3 on a heavily planted 55gal tropical tank. It's very
simple to use, maintain, & setup. It has a lot of space for media,
and set me back about $100. (the XP2 I think is around $80). At
first I thought it was overkill, but not really anymore. I find it
powerful enough to literally clear up cloudiness before my eyes, while
at the same time my mess of large angels are very happy with the
minimal current. It's only been running for 4 months but both fish
and owner are happy FWIW. Of course YMMV.
========================
Thanks,... I've been looking at the Rena's in my mail order catalogs. Since
my 55s also have the larger Aquaclears running on them I can probably get
the XP1. I'm going to see if I can get a better price than the $69.99 F&S
is advertising them for. I had such a bad experience with the Fluvals I

That's how I ended up with the XP-3. I was looking at the XP-2 and
thought a little extra $ bought me more power & flexibility that could
be useful. I think the XP2 & 3 are better buys (IMHO). The plumbing
kits has a valve to adjust flow.

There are some minor quibbles about the renas like how they color
coded the plumbing so the intake tube is blue. Replacement parts are
also expensive. Some ppl report they can make some noise initially
before it gets broken in. For some this is trapped air. For others
this is related to the impeller.

hesitate to even consider them again, and the Eheims are totally out of our
price range.

You're not alone. I guess if Eheims were the only filters that worked
well & reliably they would basically be a necessary cost of fish
keeping. Here's hoping we aren't forced to take that view down the
line.

I'm going to do some Googling before I make a selection......

As you probably know already, try Froogle & Pricegrabber etc. as well

Moments before spontaneously combusting Jolly Fisherman at
was heard opining:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:33:37 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:
Thanks,... I've been looking at the Rena's in my mail order
catalogs. Since my 55s also have the larger Aquaclears running on
them I can probably get the XP1. I'm going to see if I can get a
better price than the $69.99 F&S is advertising them for. I had
such a bad experience with the Fluvals I
============
That's how I ended up with the XP-3. I was looking at the XP-2 and
thought a little extra $ bought me more power & flexibility that could
be useful. I think the XP2 & 3 are better buys (IMHO). The plumbing
kits has a valve to adjust flow.

There are some minor quibbles about the renas like how they color
coded the plumbing so the intake tube is blue. Replacement parts are
also expensive. Some ppl report they can make some noise initially
before it gets broken in. For some this is trapped air. For others
this is related to the impeller.

Noise can be a problem because at night you can hear a pin drop where I
live. Any noise will keep me awake. My husband can sleep through bombs
exploding........

hesitate to even consider them again, and the Eheims are totally out
of our price range.

You're not alone. I guess if Eheims were the only filters that worked
well & reliably they would basically be a necessary cost of fish
keeping. Here's hoping we aren't forced to take that view down the
line.

I wasn't retired and hubby semi-retired I'd probably go for the Eheims.

I'm going to do some Googling before I make a selection......

As you probably know already, try Froogle & Pricegrabber etc. as well

I'll see what I can find. ;-)
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:12:28 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

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Noise can be a problem because at night you can hear a pin drop where I
live. Any noise will keep me awake. My husband can sleep through bombs
exploding........

I just want to provide a more balanced endorsement. Mine came
extremely quiet right out of the box. Many other ppl report the same.
I don't expect any filter to be completely silent but it is inaudible
in a closed cabinet and hardly noticeable when open & you are near it.
I was looking for something near-silent as well. That's part of the
beauty of a planted tank with no air pumps or splashing water. Noisy
equipment kill it for me.

hesitate to even consider them again, and the Eheims are totally out
of our price range.

You're not alone. I guess if Eheims were the only filters that worked
well & reliably they would basically be a necessary cost of fish
keeping. Here's hoping we aren't forced to take that view down the
line.

I wasn't retired and hubby semi-retired I'd probably go for the Eheims.

Frankly I don't know what kind of value they bring. If it's the
difference between something always working as it should for years
while everything else is giving headaches I guess it's worth it. When
you're spending all these hundreds or even thousands on even modest
tank or tanks the price difference can potentially loose it's
significance IMHO.

I'm going to do some Googling before I make a selection......

As you probably know already, try Froogle & Pricegrabber etc. as well

I'll see what I can find. ;-)

I think the XP1 is around $60 @ dr foster & smith & That Fish place.
I've never seen it for less than that. Hope you get a good deal on
whatever you choose.