Internal Filter for Goldfish

"Jolly Fisherman" wrote in message
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I just want to provide a more balanced endorsement. Mine came
extremely quiet right out of the box. Many other ppl report the same.
I don't expect any filter to be completely silent but it is inaudible
in a closed cabinet and hardly noticeable when open & you are near it.
I was looking for something near-silent as well. That's part of the
beauty of a planted tank with no air pumps or splashing water. Noisy
equipment kill it for me.

I also find the sound of splashing water, buzzing airpumps and humming
motors annoying, especially at night when everything is so quiet. In the
daytime I don't notice such noise as much. My old Fluval was quiet and the
ACs I now use are as silent as any filter you could find. I was thinking
that even a second added AC filled with bio-media instead of sponges would
work for extra bio-filtration and be 1/2 the price.

I think the XP1 is around $60 @ dr foster & smith & That Fish place.
I've never seen it for less than that. Hope you get a good deal on
whatever you choose.
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Aquariums since 1952
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:30:57 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"Jolly Fisherman" wrote in message
news
I just want to provide a more balanced endorsement. Mine came
extremely quiet right out of the box. Many other ppl report the same.
I don't expect any filter to be completely silent but it is inaudible
in a closed cabinet and hardly noticeable when open & you are near it.
I was looking for something near-silent as well. That's part of the
beauty of a planted tank with no air pumps or splashing water. Noisy
equipment kill it for me.

I also find the sound of splashing water, buzzing airpumps and humming
motors annoying, especially at night when everything is so quiet. In the
daytime I don't notice such noise as much. My old Fluval was quiet and the
ACs I now use are as silent as any filter you could find. I was thinking
that even a second added AC filled with bio-media instead of sponges would
work for extra bio-filtration and be 1/2 the price.

Since you were looking for a canister I assumed the goal was improved
mechanical filtration as much or even more so than biological. You
can get supplemental sized BioWheels similarly priced to AC's. I
don't know what they sound like.

But I don't know that 3 HOB filters all disturbing the surface of a
budget planted tank is the best thing for the plants. IMHO the only
thing a 3 AC filtration system has got going for it is you already own
two. Plus planted tanks can be expensive to set up & run. An extra
$20 or $60 can easily get lost in the whole expense over time. Just
my $0.02. You know the tank and your situation better than I.

"Jolly Fisherman" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:30:57 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:
I also find the sound of splashing water, buzzing airpumps and humming
motors annoying, especially at night when everything is so quiet. In the
daytime I don't notice such noise as much. My old Fluval was quiet and
the
ACs I now use are as silent as any filter you could find. I was thinking
that even a second added AC filled with bio-media instead of sponges would
work for extra bio-filtration and be 1/2 the price.
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Since you were looking for a canister I assumed the goal was improved
mechanical filtration as much or even more so than biological. You
can get supplemental sized BioWheels similarly priced to AC's. I
don't know what they sound like.

From what I understand you have to keep purchasing inserts from the company
and that can get expensive. I have no idea what they sound like either as I
never had one. Bio-filtration would be my aim more so than mechanical
filtration as I would leave the ACs on the tanks. I use my Vortex DE filter
for water polishing.

But I don't know that 3 HOB filters all disturbing the surface of a
budget planted tank is the best thing for the plants. IMHO the only
thing a 3 AC filtration system has got going for it is you already own
two. Plus planted tanks can be expensive to set up & run. An extra
$20 or $60 can easily get lost in the whole expense over time. Just
my $0.02. You know the tank and your situation better than I.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:19:59 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

From what I understand you have to keep purchasing inserts from the company
and that can get expensive.

My understand is that you only have to replace the Bio-Wheel if it
gets damaged or stuck. Like all filters if you are creative I'm sure
there are cheaper substitutes for the mechanical pads.

I have no idea what they sound like either as I
never had one.

Apparently it can make a splashing noise as there are some models that
claim to "reduce" such noise. Never heard one in operation in a
silent room though.

Bio-filtration would be my aim more so than mechanical

Then a wet/dry type system makes a lot of sense IMHO.

filtration as I would leave the ACs on the tanks. I use my Vortex DE filter
for water polishing.

Do you mean the D-1? I'm not familiar with the DE.

I'm starting to consider a DE filter again, myself. I wish the
Diotomagic was still being made. Are you happy with yours? Is it
easy to use on multiple tanks?

"Jolly Fisherman" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:19:59 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Do you mean the D-1? I'm not familiar with the DE.

Yes. They're excellent for removing what you can't even see from the water.
I buy the DE from Home Depot for a fraction of the price the LFSs charge.

I'm starting to consider a DE filter again, myself. I wish the
Diotomagic was still being made. Are you happy with yours?

Yes, I love the job it does. This is the second one I've owned already and
wouldn't be without one. No other filter removes the fine crud this filter
removes. I run for for awhile after my weekly or bi-weekly partial water
changes. Just remember to oil it. People don't read the booklet or don't
bother and it doesn't last long when not oiled.

Is it
easy to use on multiple tanks?

Yeah, you just turn it off and move it to the next tank. When the flow
slows you dump or flush and recharge it. I just wish instead of the hoses
it was made to *hang* on the tank in some way.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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