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Old July 30th 04, 01:59 AM
Ann in Houston
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Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?


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Old July 30th 04, 02:06 AM
RichToyBox
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Not likely, but possible. The leak is probably at the level the pond drains
to, and a very thorough search of that level is called for. It is possible
that the water table is high enough that the pond will only leak to a given
level, because if it tried to leak lower water would run back into the pond.
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"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?




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Old July 30th 04, 02:14 AM
Jim and Phyllis Hurley
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Work your way around the pond with a dropper of milk. A drop where you
think the leak is will show you a leak by being drawn through the hole
instead of dispersed in the water. You could let it drain to a stopping
point, add about 1/4" of water, then do the milk routine.

Good luck.

jim

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"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?




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Old July 30th 04, 02:53 AM
Ann in Houston
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This is what I think is happening. I was in the pond earlier this evening,
trying to force air or water or whatever is making the big "bump" under the
liner and lifting it up. I figured if I stepped on the bubble, I could see
the water coming back in through the hole. Instead, I saw an eddy in the
middle of the pond, right over where I was standing. My son thinks I made a
new hole, but I don't. It's been over an hour, and the water isn't any
lower.
"RichToyBox" wrote in message
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Not likely, but possible. The leak is probably at the level the pond

drains
to, and a very thorough search of that level is called for. It is

possible
that the water table is high enough that the pond will only leak to a

given
level, because if it tried to leak lower water would run back into the

pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
...
Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?






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Old July 30th 04, 02:54 AM
Ann in Houston
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Default Leak question

I did that. Nada! Thanks, though. I thought it would work, too.
"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
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Work your way around the pond with a dropper of milk. A drop where you
think the leak is will show you a leak by being drawn through the hole
instead of dispersed in the water. You could let it drain to a stopping
point, add about 1/4" of water, then do the milk routine.

Good luck.

jim

--
____________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at:

jogathon.net

"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?






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Old July 30th 04, 01:07 PM
pixi
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Default Leak question

Did you find it?


"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
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I did that. Nada! Thanks, though. I thought it would work, too.
"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
...
Work your way around the pond with a dropper of milk. A drop where you
think the leak is will show you a leak by being drawn through the hole
instead of dispersed in the water. You could let it drain to a stopping
point, add about 1/4" of water, then do the milk routine.

Good luck.

jim

--
____________________________________________
See our pond at: home.bellsouth.net\p\pwp-jameshurley
Ask me about Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $120+ per child) at:

jogathon.net

"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
...
Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?








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Old July 31st 04, 02:46 AM
RichToyBox
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Default Leak question

There have been a number of people that have had water bubble up under the
liner. A Google search of rec.ponds will show some of the solutions, which
include putting a pipe down between the dirt and liner to allow the water to
escape, trenching around the pond to allow the water a different path, or
pumping water from below the liner. If the water level in your pond is not
higher than the surrounding ground level, then water can build up under the
liner. If the water level is higher than the surrounding ground level, the
pond is heavier than the water under the liner and it will be forced up and
around the liner. If the water builds up under the liner, it can cause the
pond to overflow as the water gets thicker and thicker under the liner.
When the water under the liner finally subsides, the liner settles back
down, looking like it has leaked. If you can't raise the side of your pond
to get the water level higher, one of the members of rec.ponds said that
they put a large boulder in the pond. The boulder is about 2 1/2 to 3 times
heavier than water so would help to hold the bottom down.

Before you start trying to locate a leak, see if you can get the water out
from under the liner. It there is a leak, the water in the pond will
continue to fall. If there is no leak, the liner will settle down to the
bottom and the water level will not go lower.
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"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
...
This is what I think is happening. I was in the pond earlier this

evening,
trying to force air or water or whatever is making the big "bump" under

the
liner and lifting it up. I figured if I stepped on the bubble, I could

see
the water coming back in through the hole. Instead, I saw an eddy in the
middle of the pond, right over where I was standing. My son thinks I made

a
new hole, but I don't. It's been over an hour, and the water isn't any
lower.
"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:cahOc.212497$XM6.13199@attbi_s53...
Not likely, but possible. The leak is probably at the level the pond

drains
to, and a very thorough search of that level is called for. It is

possible
that the water table is high enough that the pond will only leak to a

given
level, because if it tried to leak lower water would run back into the

pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
...
Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?








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Old August 1st 04, 04:17 AM
Phyllis and Jim Hurley
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Default Leak question

Any luck finding the leak? Interesting problem having gound water higher
than the leak.

Jim
"Ann in Houston" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a leak in the bottom of the pond to only drain the

water
down to a certain dept, and not empty the whole pond?




 




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