Not very buoyant molly

After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki

"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
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After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki

Hi Nikki,
Sounds similar to the symptoms my Mollies had - see posting "Sick Mollie" -
sadly I lost her and another one afterwards...

Out of curiousity do you add salt?

Gill

Gill Passman wrote:
"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
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After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki


Hi Nikki,
Sounds similar to the symptoms my Mollies had - see posting "Sick Mollie" -
sadly I lost her and another one afterwards...

The molly isn't in any obvious apparent pain. Did your molly look anorexic?

Out of curiousity do you add salt?

I used to add 1 gm per litre of salt before I had live plants. I think
adding salt will disturb the equilibrium I have got going there. I'm not
sure whether placing the fish in a quarantine tank would help. The only
QT I have now is a 12 litre, a bit smaller than the 330l tank she's in
now. And she's got her friends with her, or adversaries. Yes, she's
still chasing the younger mollies around!

Actually, I've been looking for a nice QT recently. Maybe one of at
least 20 litres. But I think it needs to be of acrylic so it's easily
put away in storage. I'm wondering whether Maidenhead does something
suitable. Maybe a hex tank. I'll need to pop down to check out what
they've got. Any ideas?

Nikki

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Gill Passman wrote:
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After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki


Hi Nikki,
Sounds similar to the symptoms my Mollies had - see posting "Sick
Mollie" -
sadly I lost her and another one afterwards...

The molly isn't in any obvious apparent pain. Did your molly look
anorexic?

Out of curiousity do you add salt?

I used to add 1 gm per litre of salt before I had live plants. I think
adding salt will disturb the equilibrium I have got going there. I'm not
sure whether placing the fish in a quarantine tank would help. The only
QT I have now is a 12 litre, a bit smaller than the 330l tank she's in
now. And she's got her friends with her, or adversaries. Yes, she's
still chasing the younger mollies around!

Actually, I've been looking for a nice QT recently. Maybe one of at
least 20 litres. But I think it needs to be of acrylic so it's easily
put away in storage. I'm wondering whether Maidenhead does something
suitable. Maybe a hex tank. I'll need to pop down to check out what
they've got. Any ideas?

Nikki

The biggest Hex tank I found (and bought) from Maidenhead was a 30L but a
little too pretty for use as a QT tank....mine is in the Living Room....It
was a Rena Kid tank - children thought it hilarous that mummy bought a Kiddy
tank. They are available from Pets at Home as well (and probably cheaper
from there - just can't quite bring myself - probably cutting my nose to
spite my face)

I bought a 20L rectangular tank all inclusive which started off as a QT tank
but now houses my betta for around £60. I did notice this weekend that they
have a bare 20L tank at £17.99 but I don't think that it even had a lid. My
local branches won't sell anything under 3galls....There are certainly some
acrylic tanks around at Hare Hatch and probably Henley....but I haven't
looked too closely....Henley also had some nice bow tanks this weekend.

BTW which one do you use?

Gill

Gill

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After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki


Hi Nikki,
Sounds similar to the symptoms my Mollies had - see posting "Sick

Mollie" -

sadly I lost her and another one afterwards...

The molly isn't in any obvious apparent pain. Did your molly look

anorexic?

Out of curiousity do you add salt?

I used to add 1 gm per litre of salt before I had live plants. I think
adding salt will disturb the equilibrium I have got going there. I'm not
sure whether placing the fish in a quarantine tank would help. The only
QT I have now is a 12 litre, a bit smaller than the 330l tank she's in
now. And she's got her friends with her, or adversaries. Yes, she's
still chasing the younger mollies around!

Actually, I've been looking for a nice QT recently. Maybe one of at
least 20 litres. But I think it needs to be of acrylic so it's easily
put away in storage. I'm wondering whether Maidenhead does something
suitable. Maybe a hex tank. I'll need to pop down to check out what
they've got. Any ideas?

Nikki


The biggest Hex tank I found (and bought) from Maidenhead was a 30L but a
little too pretty for use as a QT tank....mine is in the Living Room....It
was a Rena Kid tank - children thought it hilarous that mummy bought a Kiddy
tank.

Oh, the shame! How will you ever live it down? :-)

I bought a 20L rectangular tank all inclusive which started off as a QT tank
but now houses my betta for around £60. I did notice this weekend that they
have a bare 20L tank at £17.99 but I don't think that it even had a lid. My
local branches won't sell anything under 3galls....There are certainly some
acrylic tanks around at Hare Hatch and probably Henley....but I haven't
looked too closely....Henley also had some nice bow tanks this weekend.

BTW which one do you use?

The most convenient one is at Mill Hill. I have also visited Wembley and
St. Albans. St. Albans has just opened and is huge. Pity it's straight
off the motorway. It's suicide trying to find the entrance at 70mph!

Nikki

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After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of
those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well
rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing
but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki


Hi Nikki,
Sounds similar to the symptoms my Mollies had - see posting "Sick

Mollie" -

sadly I lost her and another one afterwards...

The molly isn't in any obvious apparent pain. Did your molly look

anorexic?

Out of curiousity do you add salt?

I used to add 1 gm per litre of salt before I had live plants. I think
adding salt will disturb the equilibrium I have got going there. I'm not
sure whether placing the fish in a quarantine tank would help. The only
QT I have now is a 12 litre, a bit smaller than the 330l tank she's in
now. And she's got her friends with her, or adversaries. Yes, she's
still chasing the younger mollies around!

Actually, I've been looking for a nice QT recently. Maybe one of at
least 20 litres. But I think it needs to be of acrylic so it's easily
put away in storage. I'm wondering whether Maidenhead does something
suitable. Maybe a hex tank. I'll need to pop down to check out what
they've got. Any ideas?

Nikki


The biggest Hex tank I found (and bought) from Maidenhead was a 30L but
a
little too pretty for use as a QT tank....mine is in the Living
Room....It
was a Rena Kid tank - children thought it hilarous that mummy bought a
Kiddy
tank.

Oh, the shame! How will you ever live it down? :-)

I bought a 20L rectangular tank all inclusive which started off as a QT
tank
but now houses my betta for around £60. I did notice this weekend that
they
have a bare 20L tank at £17.99 but I don't think that it even had a lid.
My
local branches won't sell anything under 3galls....There are certainly
some
acrylic tanks around at Hare Hatch and probably Henley....but I haven't
looked too closely....Henley also had some nice bow tanks this weekend.

BTW which one do you use?

The most convenient one is at Mill Hill. I have also visited Wembley and
St. Albans. St. Albans has just opened and is huge. Pity it's straight
off the motorway. It's suicide trying to find the entrance at 70mph!

Nikki

Has to be said though, I'm starting to feel a bit guilty about all these
trips to Garden Centres and coming out with no plants - noticed the state of
the front today :-(

Priority this weekend is to visit Garden Centres and attempt to ignore the
fish....

Gill

Gill Passman wrote:

The biggest Hex tank I found (and bought) from Maidenhead was a 30L but a
little too pretty for use as a QT tank.

Ah, ok. Looks like I just bought the same tank. I was looking for the
biggest, smallest tank and this hex tank caught my attention. I'm not
sure about the mirrored background though! But it will be tall enough to
quarantine an adult female angelfish, if I can ever find one in the UK
to replace a lost one.

I've set up the tank and have the molly in there now.

BTW, for medicinal purposes, I measured how many litres I could into the
tank. Looks like 26 without gravel. A bit cheeky advertising it as 30
though.

Nikki

"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
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Gill Passman wrote:

The biggest Hex tank I found (and bought) from Maidenhead was a 30L but
a
little too pretty for use as a QT tank.

Ah, ok. Looks like I just bought the same tank. I was looking for the
biggest, smallest tank and this hex tank caught my attention. I'm not
sure about the mirrored background though! But it will be tall enough to
quarantine an adult female angelfish, if I can ever find one in the UK
to replace a lost one.

I've set up the tank and have the molly in there now.

BTW, for medicinal purposes, I measured how many litres I could into the
tank. Looks like 26 without gravel. A bit cheeky advertising it as 30
though.

Nikki

I quite like the mirrored background - it makes it look like you have double
the plants and fish....I Wouldn't keep a beta in there though....It did
confuse the Panda Cory's for a while but they have now learnt that playmates
are in the water not in the solid bit at the back - :-)

Interesting what you say about the capacity - I didn't check mine. I'll see
how much water I can get into the next tank (lol)

Gill

Nikki Casali wrote:
After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of those
mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and has to
battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her well rounded
figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she is eating
whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder has been
damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing but
rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki

I'd try quarantine and feeding anti-parasitic food. Also bring the
Q-tank up to 1 tbsp/gallon salt (0.3%) over a few days. It will kill
any external parasites, and make her much more comfortable. You've got
a good chance if she's eating.

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Elaine T wrote:

Nikki Casali wrote:

After having got over a problem in which all of my white mollies were
too buoyant, I now have the complete opposite problem with one of
those mollies. This particular molly has no buoyancy whatsoever and
has to battle gravity to reach the water surface. She has lost her
well rounded figure to the point that she looks underfed, although she
is eating whatever is given to her. It's as if the swimming bladder
has been damaged during the period of her being over buoyant.

I presume nothing can "fix" the problem. I've never been able to cure
internal physical problems before. At the moment she can do nothing
but rest on the substrate when she's worn out of swimming.

Nikki

I'd try quarantine and feeding anti-parasitic food.

OK, just purchased a 26 litre quarantine tank. I'm quite sure
anti-parasitic food isn't available in the UK. I've dosed some
anti-bacterial medication for now. I haven't spotted any anti-internal
parasite medication either. I presume it would have to go through the mouth.

Also bring the
Q-tank up to 1 tbsp/gallon salt (0.3%) over a few days.

I've added 1/2 gm per litre or 0.05%. I need 10x more! Let me check.
That would be 3 gm per litre required?

I think I'd need a bubble stream too.

It will kill
any external parasites, and make her much more comfortable. You've got
a good chance if she's eating.


Yes, she snapped up a couple of large flakes this morning.

Nikki