Astrea snails not moving 18 hours post shipping

I purchased some astrea snails which were about 24 hours in transit. I
noticed that the shipping container was quite warm (90 degrees
estimate). It appears that most of the blue-legged hermits have
survived, but that the majority of snails have not moved after a brief
(15 min acclimation) and placement in tank. They are not moving, and
at best react very slowly and sluggishly if I touch the foot. It has
been about 18 hours since I placed them in the tank. Any thoughts on
anything I can do, should have done to keep them alive. Will they
survive or likely die. When I have ordered astrea previously, the
snails have appeared to recover after a overnight in the tank.

That is way too short of an acclimation!!!

I acclimate all critters at least 1 hour by bag method (remove water from
bag, add tank water to bag every 10 min.) and echinoderms and arthropods and
gastropods longer with drip acclimation.
Was that the acclimation instructions given by the shipper?

CW

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I purchased some astrea snails which were about 24 hours in transit. I
noticed that the shipping container was quite warm (90 degrees
estimate). It appears that most of the blue-legged hermits have
survived, but that the majority of snails have not moved after a brief
(15 min acclimation) and placement in tank. They are not moving, and
at best react very slowly and sluggishly if I touch the foot. It has
been about 18 hours since I placed them in the tank. Any thoughts on
anything I can do, should have done to keep them alive. Will they
survive or likely die. When I have ordered astrea previously, the
snails have appeared to recover after a overnight in the tank.

With snails if they were shipped wet that is way to short. If the
shipping heat did not hurt them your acclimation did. Salinity
differences can kill snails. The best way to acclimate them is to put
them on a piece of glass/plastic that is slanted into the aquarium with
the snails just above the water line. Then as the come around they can
crawl into the water at there own pace. What is best is if you can have
your supply ship them dry then it takes them less time to acclimate to
the new water. To ship them dry just use damp paper in the bag no water
at all other than what is in the paper. They will ship better than
being wet and acclimate better.

Kim Gross
jen's sal****er haven


CheezWiz wrote:
That is way too short of an acclimation!!!

I acclimate all critters at least 1 hour by bag method (remove water from
bag, add tank water to bag every 10 min.) and echinoderms and arthropods and
gastropods longer with drip acclimation.
Was that the acclimation instructions given by the shipper?

CW

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I purchased some astrea snails which were about 24 hours in transit. I
noticed that the shipping container was quite warm (90 degrees
estimate). It appears that most of the blue-legged hermits have
survived, but that the majority of snails have not moved after a brief
(15 min acclimation) and placement in tank. They are not moving, and
at best react very slowly and sluggishly if I touch the foot. It has
been about 18 hours since I placed them in the tank. Any thoughts on
anything I can do, should have done to keep them alive. Will they
survive or likely die. When I have ordered astrea previously, the
snails have appeared to recover after a overnight in the tank.

"kim gross" wrote in message ...
To ship them dry just use damp paper in the bag no water
at all other than what is in the paper. They will ship better than
being wet and acclimate better.

Have you tested shipping hermit crabs with this dry method ?

I have received a couple of shipments dry with hermits. I don't think
there is much difference to be honest, and since they are not as
sensitive to salinity changes I think shipping them wet would be a
better idea.

Kim


Pszemol wrote:
"kim gross" wrote in message
...

To ship them dry just use damp paper in the bag no water at all other
than what is in the paper. They will ship better than being wet and
acclimate better.


Have you tested shipping hermit crabs with this dry method ?

I agree.
I ordered 200 Nassarius from an Ebay source and, giving up after a month,
ordered 100 from a different source. Both shipments arrived the same day
and of the100 shipped in a bag of sal****er...5 survived. Of the 200 that
arrived in a bag of damp paper towels, all made it and are still crawling
around a year later. The person who sent the 100 made good on his 'arrive
alive' policy and at my request re-shipped in damp towels. All made it
alive and well. Now what am I going to do with all these snails....... 8^)
Dan


"kim gross" wrote in message
...
With snails if they were shipped wet that is way to short. If the
shipping heat did not hurt them your acclimation did. Salinity
differences can kill snails. The best way to acclimate them is to put
them on a piece of glass/plastic that is slanted into the aquarium with
the snails just above the water line. Then as the come around they can
crawl into the water at there own pace. What is best is if you can have
your supply ship them dry then it takes them less time to acclimate to
the new water. To ship them dry just use damp paper in the bag no water
at all other than what is in the paper. They will ship better than
being wet and acclimate better.

Kim Gross
jen's sal****er haven


CheezWiz wrote:
That is way too short of an acclimation!!!

I acclimate all critters at least 1 hour by bag method (remove water from
bag, add tank water to bag every 10 min.) and echinoderms and arthropods
and
gastropods longer with drip acclimation.
Was that the acclimation instructions given by the shipper?

CW

wrote in message
ups.com...

I purchased some astrea snails which were about 24 hours in transit. I
noticed that the shipping container was quite warm (90 degrees
estimate). It appears that most of the blue-legged hermits have
survived, but that the majority of snails have not moved after a brief
(15 min acclimation) and placement in tank. They are not moving, and
at best react very slowly and sluggishly if I touch the foot. It has
been about 18 hours since I placed them in the tank. Any thoughts on
anything I can do, should have done to keep them alive. Will they
survive or likely die. When I have ordered astrea previously, the
snails have appeared to recover after a overnight in the tank.