What a mess!

I couldn't understand why the big brown icky presumably cyano break-out.
After siphoning it up a dozen times, I went on a search, dismantled
where I had last seen the elusive blue linckia, and found its puny
smelly remains. Serious mess. I've changed the water, dropped in one
measley Maracyn tablet, which I'm assured won't do any significant harm
is such small doses, and I'm repeatedly emptying the skimmer which
really goes into major foam production after even such a small dose of
Maracyn. Is there anything I should or could be doing? Very ugly stuff.

rtk

dont skim for 24 hrs after putting in maracyn. your skimmer pulls ot
most of it. unplug skimmer for a day or 2 so medication has time to
work.

Rick wrote:

dont skim for 24 hrs after putting in maracyn. your skimmer pulls ot
most of it. unplug skimmer for a day or 2 so medication has time to
work.


Thank you. I'll turn it off right now.

rtk

rtk wrote:
I couldn't understand why the big brown icky presumably cyano break-out.
After siphoning it up a dozen times, I went on a search, dismantled
where I had last seen the elusive blue linckia, and found its puny
smelly remains. Serious mess. I've changed the water, dropped in one
measley Maracyn tablet, which I'm assured won't do any significant harm
is such small doses, and I'm repeatedly emptying the skimmer which
really goes into major foam production after even such a small dose of
Maracyn. Is there anything I should or could be doing? Very ugly stuff.

rtk

When you say you put in one measley tablet, do you mean that was not the
correct dose? (Can't get this stuff here so don't know the dose rates
and you didn't say the size of your tank)

If that is the case why put it in at all as it won't do the job you are
expecting? All you are doing is breeding resistant bugs!! Please don't
do that, pretty please even.

miskairal wrote:


When you say you put in one measley tablet, do you mean that was not the
correct dose? (Can't get this stuff here so don't know the dose rates
and you didn't say the size of your tank)

If that is the case why put it in at all as it won't do the job you are
expecting? All you are doing is breeding resistant bugs!! Please don't
do that, pretty please even.

Thank you for the pretty please. I assume that was sugar coated. The
dose of Maracyn, one third of that recommended for fish disease, is
intended only for the cyano which is way more sensitive to the chemical.
Today I'll use only half of that. It really is a nasty problem, though,
and I'm siphoning up the stuff repeatedly all day, but that's just on
the surface of the sand, so it's probably more for the sake of my eyes
than the actual problem. I did turn off the skimmer and I'm going down
to see if things are any better. So far, the fish and corals don't seem
to react to either the bacteria or the Maracyn and I hope all this
passes with no damage from either. Ugly, though.

I do appreciate your concern and warning.

rtk

rtk wrote:
miskairal wrote:


When you say you put in one measley tablet, do you mean that was not
the correct dose? (Can't get this stuff here so don't know the dose
rates and you didn't say the size of your tank)

If that is the case why put it in at all as it won't do the job you
are expecting? All you are doing is breeding resistant bugs!! Please
don't do that, pretty please even.


Thank you for the pretty please. I assume that was sugar coated. The
dose of Maracyn, one third of that recommended for fish disease, is
intended only for the cyano which is way more sensitive to the chemical.
Today I'll use only half of that. It really is a nasty problem, though,
and I'm siphoning up the stuff repeatedly all day, but that's just on
the surface of the sand, so it's probably more for the sake of my eyes
than the actual problem. I did turn off the skimmer and I'm going down
to see if things are any better. So far, the fish and corals don't seem
to react to either the bacteria or the Maracyn and I hope all this
passes with no damage from either. Ugly, though.

I do appreciate your concern and warning.

rtk
Yes it was sugar coated - I was not looking for a fight. I just come
across so many people who don't know the trouble resistant bacteria
cause. I would have preferred to have been knowledgable enough to answer
your question but I only have tropical freshwaters so far and am here to
learn ready to start my reef tank.

Good Luck!

miskairal wrote:

All you are doing is breeding resistant bugs!!

This is not a problem in aquaria. It's not as if they can get out and spread.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

George Patterson wrote:
miskairal wrote:


All you are doing is breeding resistant bugs!!


This is not a problem in aquaria. It's not as if they can get out and
spread.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

No they can't but

a) Can you say that NO ONE ever releases their fish back into the ocean?
I knew of one person that did it here in Oz on a regular basis many
years ago.

b) What if...you put your hand in the tank and pulled it out, then went
and washed your hands and the bacteria that were resistant were on your
hands and went down the plughole and into either our waterways or the ocean?

c) You breed a resistant strain of bacteria and the you give a fish to a
friend who puts it in their tank and then gives one of their fish to a
friend who puts it in their tank where it fights with one of their fish
so they return a fish to a pet shop where the owner puts the fish into
their tank and all along that chain some of those resistant bacteria are
spread around. I'd be a bit cranky when my fish that I bought infected
my other fish and I couldn't treat them easily b/c someone had developed
a resistant strain of bacteria.

d) You develop a resistant strain of bacteria, put your hand in the tank
and then you put your hand to your mouth (who knows what for) and give
yourself the resistant bacteria?

I don't even know if fish bacteria can infect humans but I was a nurse
and I have seen the results of resistant bacteria and wouldn't wish it
on anybody.

I'm just asking everybody to be careful with them, use correctly at the
right strength for the right length of time.

Yep,

One day our future generations are going to curse us for that damn
anti-bacterial hand soap that will ultimately result in the demise of the
human race.....

Sure, far fetched, but at the same time......

"miskairal" wrote in message
u...
George Patterson wrote:
miskairal wrote:


All you are doing is breeding resistant bugs!!


This is not a problem in aquaria. It's not as if they can get out and
spread.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

No they can't but

a) Can you say that NO ONE ever releases their fish back into the ocean? I
knew of one person that did it here in Oz on a regular basis many years
ago.

b) What if...you put your hand in the tank and pulled it out, then went
and washed your hands and the bacteria that were resistant were on your
hands and went down the plughole and into either our waterways or the
ocean?

c) You breed a resistant strain of bacteria and the you give a fish to a
friend who puts it in their tank and then gives one of their fish to a
friend who puts it in their tank where it fights with one of their fish so
they return a fish to a pet shop where the owner puts the fish into their
tank and all along that chain some of those resistant bacteria are spread
around. I'd be a bit cranky when my fish that I bought infected my other
fish and I couldn't treat them easily b/c someone had developed a
resistant strain of bacteria.

d) You develop a resistant strain of bacteria, put your hand in the tank
and then you put your hand to your mouth (who knows what for) and give
yourself the resistant bacteria?

I don't even know if fish bacteria can infect humans but I was a nurse and
I have seen the results of resistant bacteria and wouldn't wish it on
anybody.

I'm just asking everybody to be careful with them, use correctly at the
right strength for the right length of time.

I don't even know if fish bacteria can infect humans but I was a nurse
and I have seen the results of resistant bacteria and wouldn't wish it
on anybody.

I'm just asking everybody to be careful with them, use correctly at the
right strength for the right length of time.

Just so you know there is atleast on bacteria that can infect humans.
Don't have the time right now the look up the name but I believe is a
type of fish tuberculosis. There have been articles writen up buy
people that have contracted it from there aquariums in a few different
fish magizines as well as on different web sites. I know if you do a
google search on fish TB you will find some interesting reading material.

Kim