Maroon Clownfish eggs...

Hi,
I would like to share some info about my clownfish with you.

Monday, late in the night, I noticed my pair of clowns
lied eggs on the bathroom tile I placed near their anemone.
Did not took the picture then, but the eggs were orange,
quite bright, uniformly colored and translucent...

Yesterday evening I moved the tile to take a photo.
The female clown was ****ed off but I bribed her with food :-)

Here is the link to some of the pictures:
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clowns_8_2005/
The ones with 8-11.* pattern are from yesterday.
I have enlarged one of the pictures and decided to count eggs:
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting0.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting1.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting2.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting3.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting4.JPG
I colored every single egg manually in Paintbrush program,
changing the color of my brush with every 20 eggs counted.
Then, I added all colored areas together and came up with
the number of eggs equal to 677. Pretty impressive...

The pictures from Wednesday (8-10.*) were not in focus so
the count I took on them is not as accurate, but I counted
much more eggs, almost 850. I am wondering what could be
the reason for diminishing number of eggs every day...
Could it be some predation ?

Anyway - I was wondering if anybody knows a computer program
I can use to count the eggs on the electronic picture in an
automatic way, without suffering dry eyes from counting dots
one by one ? :-) I tried to modify the picture to make it
black and white, and then count eggs, but the b&w conversion
did not work well on the colors I had on the picture...
I would like to count the eggs when I move them to the
fry tank, but I don't want to exercise my eyes too much ;-)
Any other ideas ?

p.s. I got the rotifers and algae culture running on high gear
in wait for the hatchlings... I am curious how will it work out.

The pictures from Wednesday (8-10.*) were not in focus so
the count I took on them is not as accurate, but I counted
much more eggs, almost 850. I am wondering what could be
the reason for diminishing number of eggs every day...
Could it be some predation ?

It is normal that eggs dissapear through time. There are many reasons why
this happens. My guess is that not all the eggs get fertilized by males
sperm so some of them are wasted. Other eggs can get some sort of bacterial
or fungal infestations, some can be eaten by fish (not likely 'cose clowns
defend them like crazy), shrimps, worms...
More and more eggs will be lost until hatching but it is normal. That is the
reason why there are so many eggs. If only few of those eggs in nature
become adoult fish it is success for the breading pair.
If you achieve rearing to adulthoud 10 of them you should be very happy.
When you gain experience maybe you could rear more from each spawning.
Here is some articles on clownfish breading and rearing the fry
http://www.netpets.org/fish/referenc.../brdclown.html,
http://user.aol.com/cebrezzie/aquarium/CLOWNFISH.htm

Good luck and keep us posting!

Mislav

"Mislav" wrote in message ...
If you achieve rearing to adulthoud 10 of them you should be very happy.
When you gain experience maybe you could rear more from each spawning.
Here is some articles on clownfish breading and rearing the fry
http://www.netpets.org/fish/referenc.../brdclown.html,
http://user.aol.com/cebrezzie/aquarium/CLOWNFISH.htm

Good luck and keep us posting!

Eggs hatched yesterday eveining and they swim in the rotifers+algae sup :-)

"Mislav" wrote in message ...
The pictures from Wednesday (8-10.*) were not in focus so
the count I took on them is not as accurate, but I counted
much more eggs, almost 850. I am wondering what could be
the reason for diminishing number of eggs every day...
Could it be some predation ?

It is normal that eggs dissapear through time. There are many reasons why
this happens. My guess is that not all the eggs get fertilized by males
sperm so some of them are wasted. Other eggs can get some sort of bacterial
or fungal infestations, some can be eaten by fish (not likely 'cose clowns
defend them like crazy), shrimps, worms...
More and more eggs will be lost until hatching but it is normal. That is the
reason why there are so many eggs. If only few of those eggs in nature
become adoult fish it is success for the breading pair.
If you achieve rearing to adulthoud 10 of them you should be very happy.
When you gain experience maybe you could rear more from each spawning.
Here is some articles on clownfish breading and rearing the fry
http://www.netpets.org/fish/referenc.../brdclown.html,
http://user.aol.com/cebrezzie/aquarium/CLOWNFISH.htm

Good luck and keep us posting!

Yes, larvae is 8-days old today, about 130 of them survived out of 650
eggs and I noticed first two fish changing in shape and color indication
the beginning of metamorphosis. The are all black, the silver/transparent
belly appearance disappeared, and on the back I can see two white dots
like the beginning of typical clownfish white belts forming. The two white
dots are not visible from the side yet, just small dots on their back.
Fish greatly improved their swimming and seeing abilities - they actively
hunt for rotifers picking them from the water surface and the tank walls.
They also escape quickly from my submerged hand during cleaning...
They did not do it just after hatch - they were passive plankton and now
they are more active swimmers like adult fish. They still have fully
transparent tail fin and still swimming in the larvae-kind tail waging.
Not the undulating adult fish fashion. I plan to introduce brine shrimp
larvae to their diet today. I was hoping to do this yesterday but something
happen to brine shrimp eggs and they did not hatch. I hope they will hatch
today because fish become too big to survive on rotifers alone...
If problems with my brine shrimp eggs forbid me feeding fish with them
I will have to substitute this food with pulverized flakes - hope this
will be enough. Not sure how to do it, what technique to use for feeding.
Do not want to polute water too much and want the food to stay in suspension
for long time...

None of your links work for me at this time.

Marc


Pszemol wrote:
Hi,
I would like to share some info about my clownfish with you.

Monday, late in the night, I noticed my pair of clowns
lied eggs on the bathroom tile I placed near their anemone.
Did not took the picture then, but the eggs were orange,
quite bright, uniformly colored and translucent...

Yesterday evening I moved the tile to take a photo.
The female clown was ****ed off but I bribed her with food :-)

Here is the link to some of the pictures:
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clowns_8_2005/
The ones with 8-11.* pattern are from yesterday.
I have enlarged one of the pictures and decided to count eggs:
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting0.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting1.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting2.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting3.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting4.JPG
I colored every single egg manually in Paintbrush program,
changing the color of my brush with every 20 eggs counted.
Then, I added all colored areas together and came up with
the number of eggs equal to 677. Pretty impressive...

The pictures from Wednesday (8-10.*) were not in focus so
the count I took on them is not as accurate, but I counted
much more eggs, almost 850. I am wondering what could be
the reason for diminishing number of eggs every day...
Could it be some predation ?

Anyway - I was wondering if anybody knows a computer program
I can use to count the eggs on the electronic picture in an
automatic way, without suffering dry eyes from counting dots
one by one ? :-) I tried to modify the picture to make it
black and white, and then count eggs, but the b&w conversion
did not work well on the colors I had on the picture...
I would like to count the eggs when I move them to the
fry tank, but I don't want to exercise my eyes too much ;-)
Any other ideas ?

p.s. I got the rotifers and algae culture running on high gear
in wait for the hatchlings... I am curious how will it work out.

--
Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message ...
None of your links work for me at this time.

Unfortunately they do not work for some server problem.
Check back some other time. Maybe tomorrow.
Links are correct, server is cheap (free), so that is it failing a lot.

man....get rid of your free server...nothing like people wanting to look at
your success only to be repeatedly denied....



"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I would like to share some info about my clownfish with you.

Monday, late in the night, I noticed my pair of clowns
lied eggs on the bathroom tile I placed near their anemone.
Did not took the picture then, but the eggs were orange,
quite bright, uniformly colored and translucent...

Yesterday evening I moved the tile to take a photo.
The female clown was ****ed off but I bribed her with food :-)

Here is the link to some of the pictures:
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clowns_8_2005/
The ones with 8-11.* pattern are from yesterday.
I have enlarged one of the pictures and decided to count eggs:
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting0.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting1.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting2.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting3.JPG
http://www.darmoland.pl/pszemol/Clow....counting4.JPG
I colored every single egg manually in Paintbrush program,
changing the color of my brush with every 20 eggs counted.
Then, I added all colored areas together and came up with
the number of eggs equal to 677. Pretty impressive...

The pictures from Wednesday (8-10.*) were not in focus so
the count I took on them is not as accurate, but I counted
much more eggs, almost 850. I am wondering what could be
the reason for diminishing number of eggs every day...
Could it be some predation ?

Anyway - I was wondering if anybody knows a computer program
I can use to count the eggs on the electronic picture in an
automatic way, without suffering dry eyes from counting dots
one by one ? :-) I tried to modify the picture to make it
black and white, and then count eggs, but the b&w conversion
did not work well on the colors I had on the picture...
I would like to count the eggs when I move them to the
fry tank, but I don't want to exercise my eyes too much ;-)
Any other ideas ?

p.s. I got the rotifers and algae culture running on high gear
in wait for the hatchlings... I am curious how will it work out.

I figured this already. This is one of the crapiest free services ever ;-)

"Phil Payes" wrote in message ...
man....get rid of your free server...nothing like people wanting to look at
your success only to be repeatedly denied....

Try ipowerweb.com - It runs me $96 a year, and I have something like
2000 megs of storage space and 80+ gigs of bandwidth per month.

Marc


Pszemol wrote:
I figured this already. This is one of the crapiest free services ever ;-)

"Phil Payes" wrote in message
...

man....get rid of your free server...nothing like people wanting to
look at your success only to be repeatedly denied....




--
Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message m...
Try ipowerweb.com - It runs me $96 a year, and I have something like
2000 megs of storage space and 80+ gigs of bandwidth per month.

Cool service... But I do not even dream about the website like yours.
All I need is to share couple of crappy pictures ;-)

BTW - let me know if this will work for you guys:
These are pictures repeated from 8/11 http://www.voila.pl/mwyc1
Here are new pictures of fry from yesterday http://www.voila.pl/g5lhk

I know the picture quality has a lot of room for improvement
but I do not have too much of a photo making talent ;-)