Berghia Nudibranch - Aiptasia Munchers

I got a pair of these nudi's a week ago, rather than go through the
whole setup again, here's my post about them.

http://www.phishybusiness.co.uk/comp...34/topic,379.0

My problem is having enough of the aiptasia to feed the baby nudi's
which are due to hatch in 3-4 days. Anyone know of any ways to speed up
propagation of aiptasia?(besides Joes Juice!)

cheers,

Mark

You can feed them a variety of foods.
As you have found out, the bigest problem is keeping up
the production of aiptasia.

If you want to see a picture of the larva under the
microscope, go to my web site,
http://waynesallee.com/nudilarva.jpg
They swim around like rotifiers.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Mark wrote on 1/19/2006 6:31 PM:
I got a pair of these nudi's a week ago, rather than go through the
whole setup again, here's my post about them.

http://www.phishybusiness.co.uk/comp...34/topic,379.0


My problem is having enough of the aiptasia to feed the baby nudi's
which are due to hatch in 3-4 days. Anyone know of any ways to speed up
propagation of aiptasia?(besides Joes Juice!)

cheers,

Mark

Basicly anything you feed your fish, you can feed the
aiptasia to speed up their growth.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/19/2006 7:41 PM:
You can feed them a variety of foods.
As you have found out, the bigest problem is keeping up the production
of aiptasia.

If you want to see a picture of the larva under the microscope, go to my
web site, http://waynesallee.com/nudilarva.jpg
They swim around like rotifiers.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Mark wrote on 1/19/2006 6:31 PM:

I got a pair of these nudi's a week ago, rather than go through the
whole setup again, here's my post about them.

http://www.phishybusiness.co.uk/comp...34/topic,379.0


My problem is having enough of the aiptasia to feed the baby nudi's
which are due to hatch in 3-4 days. Anyone know of any ways to speed
up propagation of aiptasia?(besides Joes Juice!)

cheers,

Mark

Visit your LFS I am sure most would be happy to give yu all the aip yu
care to remove and take home. I have a tank setup with nothing but
all the undesireables most folks remove from a display tank,
predominately aipstasia. I have some florescent aip that makes most
commonly available corals look like dull drab critters........I have
the aip in a tank with bristle worms and other unwanted critters and
its as interesting as any other tank I have is, sometimes more so. I
rarely pay any attention to this tank in regards to tests and water
changes, and it looks fantastic. Perhpaas gettng another tank setup
and start to propagate your own aip would be an option......but either
way you look at it, aip is not really all that demanding and is easy
to propagate under the bare minimum essentials......


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:31:36 GMT, Mark
wrote:
I got a pair of these nudi's a week ago, rather than go through the
whole setup again, here's my post about them.

http://www.phishybusiness.co.uk/comp...34/topic,379.0

My problem is having enough of the aiptasia to feed the baby nudi's
which are due to hatch in 3-4 days. Anyone know of any ways to speed up
propagation of aiptasia?(besides Joes Juice!)

cheers,

Mark

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The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates....

Yea, they are easy to propigate, *so easy*, but the
problem is that the bergia eat them up so fast. When you
are trying to rase bergia to sell, sudenly you find that
you are running out of aiptasia. I've rased bergia before,
and ran into that problem. I'm now rasing them again, just
starting, and have developed a trade secret way of raising
the aiptasia. Time will tell how sucsesfull that is :-)

But yea, as esy as it is to grow aiptasia, it sounds odd
to be running out of, but those bergia eat them rather
quickly.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Roy wrote on 1/20/2006 9:59 AM:
Visit your LFS I am sure most would be happy to give yu all the aip yu
care to remove and take home. I have a tank setup with nothing but
all the undesireables most folks remove from a display tank,
predominately aipstasia. I have some florescent aip that makes most
commonly available corals look like dull drab critters........I have
the aip in a tank with bristle worms and other unwanted critters and
its as interesting as any other tank I have is, sometimes more so. I
rarely pay any attention to this tank in regards to tests and water
changes, and it looks fantastic. Perhpaas gettng another tank setup
and start to propagate your own aip would be an option......but either
way you look at it, aip is not really all that demanding and is easy
to propagate under the bare minimum essentials......


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:31:36 GMT, Mark
wrote:

I got a pair of these nudi's a week ago, rather than go through the
whole setup again, here's my post about them.

http://www.phishybusiness.co.uk/comp...34/topic,379.0

My problem is having enough of the aiptasia to feed the baby nudi's
which are due to hatch in 3-4 days. Anyone know of any ways to speed up
propagation of aiptasia?(besides Joes Juice!)

cheers,

Mark

Wayne Sallee wrote:

Yea, they are easy to propigate, *so easy*, but the problem is that the
bergia eat them up so fast. When you are trying to rase bergia to sell,
sudenly you find that you are running out of aiptasia. I've rased bergia
before, and ran into that problem. I'm now rasing them again, just
starting, and have developed a trade secret way of raising the aiptasia.
Time will tell how sucsesfull that is :-)

But yea, as esy as it is to grow aiptasia, it sounds odd to be running
out of, but those bergia eat them rather quickly.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Wayne,
can you recommend a vendor, I've got a tank that would be a prime candidate for
some bergia.
thanks,
Paul S.

You can buy them from me, or another good place to buy
them from is www.inlandaquatics.com

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Paul Schnettler wrote on 1/20/2006 12:44 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:

Yea, they are easy to propigate, *so easy*, but the problem is that
the bergia eat them up so fast. When you are trying to rase bergia to
sell, sudenly you find that you are running out of aiptasia. I've
rased bergia before, and ran into that problem. I'm now rasing them
again, just starting, and have developed a trade secret way of raising
the aiptasia. Time will tell how sucsesfull that is :-)

But yea, as esy as it is to grow aiptasia, it sounds odd to be running
out of, but those bergia eat them rather quickly.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Wayne,
can you recommend a vendor, I've got a tank that would be a prime
candidate for some bergia.
thanks,
Paul S.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
You can buy them from me, or another good place to buy them from is
www.inlandaquatics.com

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Paul Schnettler wrote on 1/20/2006 12:44 PM:

Wayne Sallee wrote:

Yea, they are easy to propigate, *so easy*, but the problem is that
the bergia eat them up so fast. When you are trying to rase bergia to
sell, sudenly you find that you are running out of aiptasia. I've
rased bergia before, and ran into that problem. I'm now rasing them
again, just starting, and have developed a trade secret way of
raising the aiptasia. Time will tell how sucsesfull that is :-)

But yea, as esy as it is to grow aiptasia, it sounds odd to be
running out of, but those bergia eat them rather quickly.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Wayne,
can you recommend a vendor, I've got a tank that would be a prime
candidate for some bergia.
thanks,
Paul S.

email sent

Hi Paul,

Here is another source for Aiptasia eating nudibranchs:
http://www.saltyunderground.com/index.htm

And now for a bit of identification trivia:

The Aiptasia eaters we've all been calling Berghia verrucicornis or
just Berghia are apparently a different species entirely. Here's the
411 on the real Berghia.
Berghia verrucicornis
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=bergverr
They're from the eastern Atlantic - Africa and possibly Europe - and
appparently not much is known about their habits or diet.

And here's the info on the slug that we've been calling Berghia:
Aeolidiella stephanieae
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=aeolstep

As an aside, the Sea Slug Forum lists three different species of
Berghia and seven of Aeolidiella.

In the end, it doesn't really make a lot of difference since you still
want to ask for "Berghia" when you're in the market for an Aiptasia
eating nudi.

Taxonomically yours,

Alex

Yep, I've read about the berghia ID before, but as said, as long as they
do the job, ie. eating aiptasia, I'm not too bothered. Cheers for the
replies guys, they are in a seperate tank from the berghia but they
aren't multiplying like I'd hoped for - more food for them I guess then!
Thanks for the piccys wayne, they sure are tiny when they hatch!

Mark



Tidepool Geek wrote:
Hi Paul,

Here is another source for Aiptasia eating nudibranchs:
http://www.saltyunderground.com/index.htm

And now for a bit of identification trivia:

The Aiptasia eaters we've all been calling Berghia verrucicornis or
just Berghia are apparently a different species entirely. Here's the
411 on the real Berghia.
Berghia verrucicornis
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=bergverr
They're from the eastern Atlantic - Africa and possibly Europe - and
appparently not much is known about their habits or diet.

And here's the info on the slug that we've been calling Berghia:
Aeolidiella stephanieae
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=aeolstep

As an aside, the Sea Slug Forum lists three different species of
Berghia and seven of Aeolidiella.

In the end, it doesn't really make a lot of difference since you still
want to ask for "Berghia" when you're in the market for an Aiptasia
eating nudi.

Taxonomically yours,

Alex