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Old February 26th 06, 03:08 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"Jaime R-S" wrote in message . ..
I don't know how will you understand that corals are
CARNIVOROUS and don't eat the algae.


Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?

And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ?
Do you really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?

Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the
coral CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.


Even more interesting...
Could you please provide me with some paper elaborating on this subject ?

Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just natural
sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room with
inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the $500
investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those lights are
needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.


Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
is quite peculiar...
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Old February 26th 06, 04:14 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Hold on there guy ... Did you try Google first or are you just trying to
stir the pot because
Jaime and Wayne need a pair of big puffy boxing gloves.

I found this. Your one question interested me once I cut through
the who is the marine bio guy and who is the whatever guy.
Corals
What they can get from their algae cannot satisfy all their needs.
In fact, corals are basically carnivorous. They catch tiny animals
from seawater and swallow them. That is their main food.
What they get from the algae is only supplementary.

http://www.nio.org/the_seas/around_us/corals/chap1.htm

Soooo...

Coral is made by millions of tiny carnivorous (meat eating) animals called
polyps. Polyps live in groups called colonies.The polyp consists of a
stomach and a mouth at one end. The mouth is surrounded by a number of
tentacles. These tentacles resemble feet, which is how they get their name:
'polyp' is a Greek word meaning 'many feet.'

The tentacles are covered with tiny stinging cells,and when a small creature
brushes against the tentacles, it is killed. The prey is then brought into
the stomach to be digested.

Sounds like the king of the micro jungle to me.

Thanks for making me learn something tonight.

Now play nice !



Chris



"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
. ..
I don't know how will you understand that corals are CARNIVOROUS and
don't eat the algae.


Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?

And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ? Do you
really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?

Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the coral
CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.


Even more interesting... Could you please provide me with some paper
elaborating on this subject ?

Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just
natural sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room
with inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the
$500 investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those
lights are needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.


Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
is quite peculiar...



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Old February 26th 06, 08:48 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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TheRock wrote on 2/25/2006 11:14 PM:
I cut through
the who is the marine bio guy


He claims to be a marine biologist, but I don't think he
realy is. I think he is just reading the books as he goes
along.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

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Old February 26th 06, 04:52 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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To be 100% sure of anything about corals is to be a fool.
Polyps are basically carnivorous, lets say 95%.
They may feed on algae debris floating around. Their digestive system are
completely capable of digesting and utilizing some vegetation but is by
chance not by choice.
Now, as far as using the zooxantell within, that is impossible. First, the
algae is not even close to its digestive system, therefor, It can´t be
digested. Second, the algae produces vegetative living matter out of
sunlight and incorporates it to its own body which, as I said, is AWAY FROM
THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM of the polyp. Third, the algae may and will utilize
digested residoir from the polyp´s meal after it enters the polyp´s body.
With those macromolecules the algae produces carbonates that the polyp can
use for skeleton building.
Your buddy here tried to say that corals utilized algae for food. That was
a barbaric statement and I corrected him.
Enough is enough...

jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
. ..
I don't know how will you understand that corals are CARNIVOROUS and
don't eat the algae.


Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?

And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ? Do you
really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?

Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the coral
CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.


Even more interesting... Could you please provide me with some paper
elaborating on this subject ?

Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just
natural sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room
with inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the
$500 investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those
lights are needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.


Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
is quite peculiar...



  #5  
Old February 26th 06, 06:59 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Are corals really strictly carnivorous?

Keep digging in those biology books, and you will slowly
learn it.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Jaime R-S wrote on 2/25/2006 11:52 PM:
To be 100% sure of anything about corals is to be a fool.
Polyps are basically carnivorous, lets say 95%.
They may feed on algae debris floating around. Their digestive system are
completely capable of digesting and utilizing some vegetation but is by
chance not by choice.
Now, as far as using the zooxantell within, that is impossible. First, the
algae is not even close to its digestive system, therefor, It can´t be
digested. Second, the algae produces vegetative living matter out of
sunlight and incorporates it to its own body which, as I said, is AWAY FROM
THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM of the polyp. Third, the algae may and will utilize
digested residoir from the polyp´s meal after it enters the polyp´s body.
With those macromolecules the algae produces carbonates that the polyp can
use for skeleton building.
Your buddy here tried to say that corals utilized algae for food. That was
a barbaric statement and I corrected him.
Enough is enough...

jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
t...

I don't know how will you understand that corals are CARNIVOROUS and
don't eat the algae.


Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?

And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ? Do you
really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?


Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the coral
CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.


Even more interesting... Could you please provide me with some paper
elaborating on this subject ?


Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just
natural sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room
with inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the
$500 investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those
lights are needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.


Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
is quite peculiar...




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Old March 2nd 06, 07:22 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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You are a troll or have completely lost it.

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"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
. ..
: To be 100% sure of anything about corals is to be a fool.
: Polyps are basically carnivorous, lets say 95%.
: They may feed on algae debris floating around. Their digestive system are
: completely capable of digesting and utilizing some vegetation but is by
: chance not by choice.
: Now, as far as using the zooxantell within, that is impossible. First, the
: algae is not even close to its digestive system, therefor, It can´t be
: digested. Second, the algae produces vegetative living matter out of
: sunlight and incorporates it to its own body which, as I said, is AWAY FROM
: THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM of the polyp. Third, the algae may and will utilize
: digested residoir from the polyp´s meal after it enters the polyp´s body.
: With those macromolecules the algae produces carbonates that the polyp can
: use for skeleton building.
: Your buddy here tried to say that corals utilized algae for food. That was
: a barbaric statement and I corrected him.
: Enough is enough...
:
: jrs
: "Pszemol" wrote in message
: ...
: "Jaime R-S" wrote in message
: . ..
: I don't know how will you understand that corals are CARNIVOROUS and
: don't eat the algae.
:
: Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?
:
: And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ? Do you
: really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?
:
: Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
: production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the coral
: CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.
:
: Even more interesting... Could you please provide me with some paper
: elaborating on this subject ?
:
: Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just
: natural sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room
: with inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the
: $500 investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those
: lights are needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.
:
: Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
: for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
: The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
: is quite peculiar...
:
:


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Old March 2nd 06, 07:35 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Just for ****s and giggles..LOL

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"Boomer" wrote in message ...
: You are a troll or have completely lost it.
:
: --
: Boomer
:
: If You See Me Running You Better Catch-Up
:
: Former US Army Bomb Technician (EOD)
: Member; IABTI, NATEODA, WEODF, ISEE & IPS
:
: Want to talk chemistry ? The Reef Chemistry Forum
: http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/index.php
:
: Want to See More ! The Coral Realm
: http://www.coralrealm.com
:
:
:
: "Jaime R-S" wrote in message
: . ..
:: To be 100% sure of anything about corals is to be a fool.
:: Polyps are basically carnivorous, lets say 95%.
:: They may feed on algae debris floating around. Their digestive system are
:: completely capable of digesting and utilizing some vegetation but is by
:: chance not by choice.
:: Now, as far as using the zooxantell within, that is impossible. First, the
:: algae is not even close to its digestive system, therefor, It can´t be
:: digested. Second, the algae produces vegetative living matter out of
:: sunlight and incorporates it to its own body which, as I said, is AWAY FROM
:: THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM of the polyp. Third, the algae may and will utilize
:: digested residoir from the polyp´s meal after it enters the polyp´s body.
:: With those macromolecules the algae produces carbonates that the polyp can
:: use for skeleton building.
:: Your buddy here tried to say that corals utilized algae for food. That was
:: a barbaric statement and I corrected him.
:: Enough is enough...
::
:: jrs
:: "Pszemol" wrote in message
:: ...
:: "Jaime R-S" wrote in message
:: . ..
:: I don't know how will you understand that corals are CARNIVOROUS and
:: don't eat the algae.
::
:: Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?
::
:: And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ? Do you
:: really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?
::
:: Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
:: production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the coral
:: CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.
::
:: Even more interesting... Could you please provide me with some paper
:: elaborating on this subject ?
::
:: Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just
:: natural sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room
:: with inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the
:: $500 investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those
:: lights are needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.
::
:: Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
:: for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
:: The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
:: is quite peculiar...
::
::
:
:


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Old March 2nd 06, 07:42 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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More ****s and giggles
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...03/feature.htm

http://www.pacificwhale.org/childrens/fsreef.html

I could post these alllllllllllllllllllllll daaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy **** for
brains, Sorry Troll
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http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/index.php

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"Boomer" wrote in message ...
: You are a troll or have completely lost it.
:
: --
: Boomer
:
: If You See Me Running You Better Catch-Up
:
: Former US Army Bomb Technician (EOD)
: Member; IABTI, NATEODA, WEODF, ISEE & IPS
:
: Want to talk chemistry ? The Reef Chemistry Forum
: http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/index.php
:
: Want to See More ! The Coral Realm
: http://www.coralrealm.com
:
:
:
: "Jaime R-S" wrote in message
: . ..
:: To be 100% sure of anything about corals is to be a fool.
:: Polyps are basically carnivorous, lets say 95%.
:: They may feed on algae debris floating around. Their digestive system are
:: completely capable of digesting and utilizing some vegetation but is by
:: chance not by choice.
:: Now, as far as using the zooxantell within, that is impossible. First, the
:: algae is not even close to its digestive system, therefor, It can´t be
:: digested. Second, the algae produces vegetative living matter out of
:: sunlight and incorporates it to its own body which, as I said, is AWAY FROM
:: THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM of the polyp. Third, the algae may and will utilize
:: digested residoir from the polyp´s meal after it enters the polyp´s body.
:: With those macromolecules the algae produces carbonates that the polyp can
:: use for skeleton building.
:: Your buddy here tried to say that corals utilized algae for food. That was
:: a barbaric statement and I corrected him.
:: Enough is enough...
::
:: jrs
:: "Pszemol" wrote in message
:: ...
:: "Jaime R-S" wrote in message
:: . ..
:: I don't know how will you understand that corals are CARNIVOROUS and
:: don't eat the algae.
::
:: Are you 100% sure this statement is correct for ALL known corals ?
::
:: And one more thing, how do you define "don't eat the algae" ? Do you
:: really mean strict 0% of any coral diet is algae ?
::
:: Yes, the algae's, and any plant for that matters,
:: production is fixed on its leaves. That is the reason why the coral
:: CAN'T benefit from the algae's production.
::
:: Even more interesting... Could you please provide me with some paper
:: elaborating on this subject ?
::
:: Light down there uses no BALLAST OR EXPENSIVE FIXTURES. It is just
:: natural sunlight, the same one that can be reproduce in your living room
:: with inexpensive lights. Of course, if you want it to look pretty, the
:: $500 investment is worst it. But please, don't tell anyone that those
:: lights are needed other than for aesthetic purposes'.
::
:: Except scientific facilities, most of the fish tanks are kept just
:: for the aesthetic purposes, so I am not sure what is the problem...
:: The statement about "reproducing sunlight with inexpensive lights"
:: is quite peculiar...
::
::
:
:


 




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