Newbie - Eclipse System Question

Hi, all!

Hope someone can guide me. I've tried to do my homework, but...

I bought an Eclipse System 12 and have it set up and running - plan to leave
it there for a week before adding my fish to it.

Stupid question I have is about the air bubbles. Does the Eclipse System
need something else for that? It said it's all inclusive, but most tanks
I've ever seen have the bubbles coming up somewhere and this one doesn't -
just has the biowheel.

Is anyone familiar with this particular tank?

Thanks for the guidance & my fish thanks you, too! He's in a little one
gallon tank w/no filter (but it has the air bubbles!) and that's been his
only home until now.

Mary

Trust the biowheel for now.

And one fish....then see www.thekrib.com on cycling.


Then wait three weeks and add another or two.

Patience.



"Mary" wrote in message
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Hi, all!

Hope someone can guide me. I've tried to do my homework, but...

I bought an Eclipse System 12 and have it set up and running - plan to
leave
it there for a week before adding my fish to it.

Stupid question I have is about the air bubbles. Does the Eclipse System
need something else for that? It said it's all inclusive, but most tanks
I've ever seen have the bubbles coming up somewhere and this one doesn't -
just has the biowheel.

Is anyone familiar with this particular tank?

Thanks for the guidance & my fish thanks you, too! He's in a little one
gallon tank w/no filter (but it has the air bubbles!) and that's been his
only home until now.

Mary

Mary wrote:
Stupid question I have is about the air bubbles. Does the Eclipse System
need something else for that? It said it's all inclusive, but most tanks
I've ever seen have the bubbles coming up somewhere and this one doesn't -
just has the biowheel.

Bubbles are not necessary, I don't have any air pumps in either of my tanks.

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"Mary" wrote:

Stupid question I have is about the air bubbles. Does the Eclipse
System need something else for that?

Don't put too much water in the tank! Fill only enough to leave a gap of
one inch or so below the biowheel "waterfall" so the dropping water can
agitate the tank's surface. Same aeration effect as bubbles.

If you later find your fish sucking air... then you can consider a separate
pump and air-stone to make bubbles.

Check your water temperature (cheap digital thermometer from the
supermarket) and you MAY find the Eclipse pump is warming the water
enough to render a separate heater unnecessary. This is a "feature" of my
2-gallon Eclipse.

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Yeah, it looks like there's quite a few bubbles floating through from the
filter pour.

I did buy a thermometer today and it's reading at 73 or 74 without a heater.
Does that mean I can only buy goldfish unless I add a heater? That's what
I'm seeing from most of what I've read.

Mary



"Charles Gillen" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote:

Stupid question I have is about the air bubbles. Does the Eclipse
System need something else for that?

Don't put too much water in the tank! Fill only enough to leave a gap of
one inch or so below the biowheel "waterfall" so the dropping water can
agitate the tank's surface. Same aeration effect as bubbles.

If you later find your fish sucking air... then you can consider a
separate
pump and air-stone to make bubbles.

Check your water temperature (cheap digital thermometer from the
supermarket) and you MAY find the Eclipse pump is warming the water
enough to render a separate heater unnecessary. This is a "feature" of
my
2-gallon Eclipse.

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Charles Gillen -- Reston, Virginia, USA

Mary wrote:
I did buy a thermometer today and it's reading at 73 or 74 without a heater.
Does that mean I can only buy goldfish unless I add a heater? That's what
I'm seeing from most of what I've read.

That's correct.

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"Mary" wrote:

I did buy a thermometer today and it's reading at 73 or 74 without a heater.
Does that mean I can only buy goldfish unless I add a heater? That's what
I'm seeing from most of what I've read.

General wisdom around here is to not get a goldfish at all for a small
tank, since they're unusually messy fish. The low 70s temperatures
you're seeing are the bottom range for most hobby fish. Considering
that this is winter (I'm guessing you're in Ohio), it's fair to guess
that your tank temperature will go up to the mid or high 70s in
summer.

Perfectly good range for most fish. I wouldn't worry about a heater
unless you're seeing large variations from day to night.


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"Eric Schreiber" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote:

I did buy a thermometer today and it's reading at 73 or 74 without a
heater.
Does that mean I can only buy goldfish unless I add a heater? That's
what
I'm seeing from most of what I've read.

General wisdom around here is to not get a goldfish at all for a small
tank, since they're unusually messy fish. The low 70s temperatures
you're seeing are the bottom range for most hobby fish. Considering
that this is winter (I'm guessing you're in Ohio), it's fair to guess
that your tank temperature will go up to the mid or high 70s in
summer.

Perfectly good range for most fish. I wouldn't worry about a heater
unless you're seeing large variations from day to night.


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How'd you guess Ohio? From the temp of my tank (you're a genius) or from my
e-mail address? curiosity kills...

"Mary" wrote:

How'd you guess Ohio? From the temp of my tank (you're a genius)
or from my e-mail address? curiosity kills...

Your message header shows "buckeye-express", so it wasn't much of a
leap. I checked to see if I could determine where you were posting
from so that I wouldn't discuss winter temperature when it didn't
apply. We get some folks here from down-under from time to time, so it
pays to look closer.



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bject: Newbie - Eclipse System Question
From: "Mary"
Date: 1/10/2004 3:01 PM Central Standard Time
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Yeah, it looks like there's quite a few bubbles floating through from the
filter pour.

I did buy a thermometer today and it's reading at 73 or 74 without a heater.
Does that mean I can only buy goldfish unless I add a heater? That's what
I'm seeing from most of what I've read.

Mary



"Charles Gillen" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote:

Stupid question I have is about the air bubbles. Does the Eclipse
System need something else for that?

Don't put too much water in the tank! Fill only enough to leave a gap of
one inch or so below the biowheel "waterfall" so the dropping water can
agitate the tank's surface. Same aeration effect as bubbles.

If you later find your fish sucking air... then you can consider a
separate
pump and air-stone to make bubbles.

Check your water temperature (cheap digital thermometer from the
supermarket) and you MAY find the Eclipse pump is warming the water
enough to render a separate heater unnecessary. This is a "feature" of
my
2-gallon Eclipse.

--
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Charles Gillen -- Reston, Virginia, USA



If you do buy a Goldfish...in a 12 g tank you could only house one.