Ich and temp, and floating

What temperature should water be to keep ich back? I have a 90g tank which
isn't heated but stays around 74 to 75 degrees. I noticed a few grains on
one of my black telescopes. Is the water too cool? Is it better to
Quarantine the fish I see with spots? I would guess it is better to treat
the tank. Is 0.3% salt right, added 3x? Or is this too much? I have read
contradicting statements on this. Some say 1 tsp per 5 gallons, and others
say 1 tbsp per gallon. I assume the 1tsp/5gal is maintenance and 1tbsp/gal
is medicinal? There is a swordtail in this tank, too, which is only 4 months
old and he's never been in salt water. Will this hurt him? I have 2
smaller guppy tanks which I can put him in for now if I have to, but he
thinks he's a goldfish (long story, LOL). I'm not sure he'd be happy with
his own kind.

Also I noticed one of the ryukins starting to "float". Actually, she wasn't
floating yet but seemed to have a hard time swimming. I have isolated her
to a 10g Qtank, added 0.1% salt and fed her only peas tonight, and will give
same in the morning. She has actually calmed a bit but I still notice her
with her tail in the air, so to speak. If she relaxes, she still rises but
she doesn't seem to be struggling like she was before. And before anyone
comments, this fish is barely 2" long, so she's fine in 10gallons. I have
Medigold food. My plan was to feed a few meals of peas only to see if it's
just constipation, and then try the Medigold for a week or so if she doesn't
improve. Any thoughts?

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Quarantine the ich fish. Temp at about 80-84degrees, salt at 0.3% (1 tbsp per
gallon)
White spot stage is not treatable, the parastite will drop into the water - this
is when
they can be killed.

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Quarantine the ich fish. Temp at about 80-84degrees, salt at 0.3% (1 tbsp
per
gallon)
White spot stage is not treatable, the parastite will drop into the
water - this
is when
they can be killed.



How do we know that the tomites are not already in the water column?
I'd treat the whole tank- no point in removing an ich fish to a Q-tank IMO.


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Toni wrote:

How do we know that the tomites are not already in the water column?
I'd treat the whole tank- no point in removing an ich fish to a Q-tank IMO.

I would remove any showing signs and treat in a quarantine AND treat the
original tank too.
Minimise the infection of the main tank. Ok its more work, but that is what I
would do.
Each to their own.

a few grains on a black telescope?????? like around the eyes, on the gill covers, on
the leading edge of pectoral fins? this could be breeding stars.
no... the water isnt too cool. the most common cause of ich outbreak is drop of more
than 4oF in temperature OR addition of new fish shedding ich.

floating ryukin. feed VERY small amounts of food. bring temp up to 80. put in a
little epsom salts and do the physical looking for mushy belly. she sounds too young
for eggs and egg binding, but better safe than sorry. Ingrid

"LoaderLady" wrote:
What temperature should water be to keep ich back? I have a 90g tank which
isn't heated but stays around 74 to 75 degrees. I noticed a few grains on
one of my black telescopes. Is the water too cool?

Also I noticed one of the ryukins starting to "float". Actually, she wasn't
floating yet but seemed to have a hard time swimming. I have isolated her
to a 10g Qtank, added 0.1% salt and fed her only peas tonight, and will give
same in the morning. She has actually calmed a bit but I still notice her
with her tail in the air, so to speak. If she relaxes, she still rises but
she doesn't seem to be struggling like she was before. And before anyone
comments, this fish is barely 2" long, so she's fine in 10gallons. I have
Medigold food. My plan was to feed a few meals of peas only to see if it's
just constipation, and then try the Medigold for a week or so if she doesn't
improve. Any thoughts?



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Spots mostly on back, behind the head. Not on the gill covers or fins.
These are young telescopes, about 2". They are also the newest fish (I got
2), but they were quarantined for 3 wks.

Other comments - why would you treat the fish in a Q tank AND treat the main
tank? I think it makes more sense to treat the fish "at home" so it's less
stressed, especially when the "home" is being treated anyways. The fish
doesn't seem sick or anything. I haven't even noticed it flashing. I just
noticed the little grains and wondered if the water was too cool. The other
fish seem fine. They are lighter colored and harder to tell since they
won't sit still :-)

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wrote in message
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a few grains on a black telescope?????? like around the eyes, on the gill
covers, on
the leading edge of pectoral fins? this could be breeding stars.
no... the water isnt too cool. the most common cause of ich outbreak is
drop of more
than 4oF in temperature OR addition of new fish shedding ich.

floating ryukin. feed VERY small amounts of food. bring temp up to 80.
put in a
little epsom salts and do the physical looking for mushy belly. she
sounds too young
for eggs and egg binding, but better safe than sorry. Ingrid

"LoaderLady" wrote:
What temperature should water be to keep ich back? I have a 90g tank
which
isn't heated but stays around 74 to 75 degrees. I noticed a few grains
on
one of my black telescopes. Is the water too cool?

Also I noticed one of the ryukins starting to "float". Actually, she
wasn't
floating yet but seemed to have a hard time swimming. I have isolated
her
to a 10g Qtank, added 0.1% salt and fed her only peas tonight, and will
give
same in the morning. She has actually calmed a bit but I still notice
her
with her tail in the air, so to speak. If she relaxes, she still rises
but
she doesn't seem to be struggling like she was before. And before anyone
comments, this fish is barely 2" long, so she's fine in 10gallons. I
have
Medigold food. My plan was to feed a few meals of peas only to see if
it's
just constipation, and then try the Medigold for a week or so if she
doesn't
improve. Any thoughts?



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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.