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I was adding FloraPride to my tank today via my usual method of pulling
half a gallon out of the tank, mixing in 10mL of FloraPride and then dripping the water back into the tank again. Half way through I decided to see if the FloraPride was raising my GH any out of curiosity. To my suprise I found just the opposite. My tap water is 4dGH, the half gallon of tank + Flora was 2dGH, and my tank (after the Flora addition) is now at 3dGH. Unfortunately I didn't think to test the water immediately before adding florapride to it so I don't know for sure what it was but two days ago it was at 4dGH. From these numbers it seems like the FloraPride is actually lowering my GH. Is this right? Anyone else with this experience? For reference the ingredients of FloraPride are (from the back of the bottle): Potassium Sulfate, EDTA, Iron Chloride, Sodium Hydroxide, DTPA, Potassium Iodide, Ammonium Heptamolybdate, with Demineralized water up to 100% The only other change I've made to the tank was to mix a new batch of yeast for my CO2 generator. The dissolved CO2 (from charts) was at about 5ppm before the change and is up to between 20 and 25ppm now. Incidentally no amount of reading about DIY CO2 prepares you for the end of that first batch of yeast! My pH jumped from 6.8ish to off the limit of my test (7.8) overnight when CO2 stopped without me realizing it. There was a notable difference in fish behavior when I got the CO2 running again - with the pH down to the mid 6s again they are much more active. -Daniel |
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dfreas wrote:
I was adding FloraPride to my tank today via my usual method of pulling half a gallon out of the tank, mixing in 10mL of FloraPride and then dripping the water back into the tank again. Half way through I decided to see if the FloraPride was raising my GH any out of curiosity. To my suprise I found just the opposite. My tap water is 4dGH, the half gallon of tank + Flora was 2dGH, and my tank (after the Flora addition) is now at 3dGH. Unfortunately I didn't think to test the water immediately before adding florapride to it so I don't know for sure what it was but two days ago it was at 4dGH. From these numbers it seems like the FloraPride is actually lowering my GH. Is this right? Anyone else with this experience? For reference the ingredients of FloraPride are (from the back of the bottle): Potassium Sulfate, EDTA, Iron Chloride, Sodium Hydroxide, DTPA, Potassium Iodide, Ammonium Heptamolybdate, with Demineralized water up to 100% The only other change I've made to the tank was to mix a new batch of yeast for my CO2 generator. The dissolved CO2 (from charts) was at about 5ppm before the change and is up to between 20 and 25ppm now. Incidentally no amount of reading about DIY CO2 prepares you for the end of that first batch of yeast! My pH jumped from 6.8ish to off the limit of my test (7.8) overnight when CO2 stopped without me realizing it. There was a notable difference in fish behavior when I got the CO2 running again - with the pH down to the mid 6s again they are much more active. -Daniel Your GH test kit could be pH or CO2 sensitive. OR your plants could now be absorbing Mg+ and Ca++ since they're growing faster. -- __ Elaine T __ __' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__ |
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Well I did another slightly (and I emphasize slightly) more scientific
test. I took two test tubes of my tap water, to one test tube I added one drop of FloraPride and the other I left alone. Then I did the GH test on both tubes. The tube treated with FloraPride was 3dGH while the other came out as 5dGH. And yes I realize that I just said my tap water was 4dGH a second ago...I suspect it is somewhere very close to exactly between 4 and 5, sometimes the test takes four drops sometimes five. Either this is a result of difference in drop size or my water really is fluctuating (is that possible?). Despite the fluctuation of my tap water the fact remains that in a side by side test there was a difference of 2dGH in plain tap and tap + FloraPride. One possibility is that in a sample this size (5mL in each tube) a single drop of mostly DI water was enough to lower the dGH. The other possibility is that this stuff really is lowering GH somehow. I'm probably going to test a larger sample of my tap water to rule out the first possibility but I think I'll wait until I hear a few more responses to see if anyone has any other ideas as to what's going on before I start wasting large amounts of FloraPride on my curiosity. I think this test ruled out the possibility of a CO2 sensitive GH test kit and though I'd really like to believe my plants are absorbing the available ions that fast I think this test rules that out as the responsible factor as well. When I do a larger sample I'll also test pH in both samples to see if that is the problem. To recap, current possibilities a 1) Consistent human error (increasingly unlikely as repeated tests come up with the same result) 2)ph sensitive GH test kit. 3)One drop of DI water is enough to lower dGH by two degrees in a 5 mL sample of tap water, in which case none of the possiblities Elaine suggested have been ruled out and this second test was pointless. 4)FloraPride lowers GH -Daniel |
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