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Old May 29th 05, 05:51 PM
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Around 40-ppms........Thanks
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Using the test strips.
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How do I raise the alkalinity content in my pond water, its low.

What is the measurement you are getting and how are you measuring it?



What was the measurement that you got?



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Old May 29th 05, 08:33 PM
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 12:51:03 -0400, "Paul" wrote:

Around 40-ppms........Thanks


I'd want to raise that too. ) ~ jan

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Old May 30th 05, 09:12 PM
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Around 40-ppms........Thanks


That is a little low, but not dangerlously so. If it were me, I'd just add
some limestone rocks to the pond and leave it at that. I have a limestone
waterfall, and my general hardness stays right at 80 mg/L, which is normal
for freshwater ponds.

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Using the test strips.
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"Paul" wrote in message
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How do I raise the alkalinity content in my pond water, its low.

What is the measurement you are getting and how are you measuring it?



What was the measurement that you got?





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Old May 30th 05, 10:14 PM
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"Paul" wrote in message
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Around 40-ppms........Thanks


That is a little low, but not dangerlously so. If it were me, I'd just

add
some limestone rocks to the pond and leave it at that. I have a limestone
waterfall, and my general hardness stays right at 80 mg/L, which is normal
for freshwater ponds.

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Old May 31st 05, 10:20 PM
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"George" wrote in message
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"Paul" wrote in message
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Around 40-ppms........Thanks


That is a little low, but not dangerlously so. If it were me, I'd just

add
some limestone rocks to the pond and leave it at that. I have a
limestone
waterfall, and my general hardness stays right at 80 mg/L, which is
normal
for freshwater ponds.

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And they're totally safe. They raise it slowly and gradually - no shock
to
the fish.
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Exactly. And the limestone keeps the alkalinity from falling.


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Old June 2nd 05, 02:57 AM
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Exactly. And the limestone keeps the alkalinity from falling.


In fact, the more that the alkalinity falls (i.e., the water is
becoming acidic), the more likely the limestone will react with
the acids in the water to, um, increase alkalinity.

This is why certain fine organic sands are to be preferred in a
marine environment, where higher alkalinity is particularly
important.

C//

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Old June 1st 05, 04:04 AM
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Like how much Limestone. One big piece or smaller ones. Thanks...
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Exactly. And the limestone keeps the alkalinity from falling.


In fact, the more that the alkalinity falls (i.e., the water is
becoming acidic), the more likely the limestone will react with
the acids in the water to, um, increase alkalinity.

This is why certain fine organic sands are to be preferred in a
marine environment, where higher alkalinity is particularly
important.

C//



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Old June 1st 05, 08:47 AM
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"Paul" wrote in message
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Like how much Limestone. One big piece or smaller ones. Thanks...
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Exactly. And the limestone keeps the alkalinity from falling.


In fact, the more that the alkalinity falls (i.e., the water is
becoming acidic), the more likely the limestone will react with
the acids in the water to, um, increase alkalinity.

This is why certain fine organic sands are to be preferred in a
marine environment, where higher alkalinity is particularly
important.

C//


I don't know that there is a specific formula as not all limestone is the
same. Limestones vary greatly in their solubility and hardness. I have
about 300-400 lbs of it built up as a waterfall and for structural support
for my biofilter in one end my 1,400-gallon pond (although not all of it is
under water). Nearly all of it is dolomitic limestone (high magnesium
Limestone containing a significant fraction of dolomite), so it is harder
than pure limestone (which has calcite as a primary mineral) and has a
relatively low solubility. Even so, enough of it gets dissolved over time
that it keeps both the pH and the alkalinity in the proper ranges. Oh, and
always clean the rock before use.


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Old June 1st 05, 02:14 PM
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 23:04:13 -0400, "Paul"
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Like how much Limestone. One big piece or smaller ones. Thanks...
"Courageous" wrote in message
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Exactly. And the limestone keeps the alkalinity from falling.


In fact, the more that the alkalinity falls (i.e., the water is
becoming acidic), the more likely the limestone will react with
the acids in the water to, um, increase alkalinity.


I've learned different people seem to have a little different
experience and I'd like to share mine. I've been using ground garden
limestone from the garden shop for a number of years. I place about
2 or 3 cups in a sock, tie the top and toss it into the flow of the
water going through the filter. I also add another couple cups
around the pond. The reason for the other couple cups is limestone
doesn't dissolve quickly like baking soda and quite frankly is a bit
frightening after a heavy rain. (Limestone dissolves in less than pH
7.8.) I just don't get the KH readings I feel I should, probably
because the limestone is working so slowly. My normal pH readings
are 7.8 to 8.2 and KH drops after a rain, sometimes as low as one
degree, (1 degree = 17.9 ppm.) but the pH never goes below 7.0 and the
fish don't seem to mind. In fact the seem more active after a rain
nibbling at the liner and collar stones they haven't been able to
reach before.

Regards,

Hal
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Old June 1st 05, 08:37 AM
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"Courageous" wrote in message
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Exactly. And the limestone keeps the alkalinity from falling.


In fact, the more that the alkalinity falls (i.e., the water is
becoming acidic), the more likely the limestone will react with
the acids in the water to, um, increase alkalinity.

This is why certain fine organic sands are to be preferred in a
marine environment, where higher alkalinity is particularly
important.

C//


In a marine environment, it is critical to have either aragonite sea sand
or a crushed coral substrate to prevent both Alkalinity and pH crashes.


 




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