Regarding Koi-Lo's "info" = )~

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Not taking your bait anymore.
You are wasting space here Koi-Lo.
===========================
Ditto! You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited, that I put
them up just to bait you,.... a total stranger. I don't know what your
motive is but I have a good idea. Again, try and have a happy holiday.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Koi-lo wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Not taking your bait anymore.
You are wasting space here Koi-Lo.
===========================
Ditto! You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited, that I put
them up just to bait you,.... a total stranger. I don't know what your
motive is but I have a good idea. Again, try and have a happy holiday.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited
I HAVE seen the pictures and it's PROOF that you are housing them in
tiny Ivy bowls.
That is UNSUITABLE for housing Bettas!
In your pictures that boast about, it clearly shows things around them
for size comparison.
They are much too tiny to house Bettas in. It's cruel.
And damned right I'm ragging at you for it because you seem to think
it's all fine and dandy. It simply is not right.
You wouldn't house a Koi, fully grown in a 20g tank would you?
Same difference. Yet you think it's perfectly fine to do it to Bettas.
Why on earth would you take proper care of only some of your animals?
Once again, Ivy bowls are MUCH too small.

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Koi-lo wrote:
Ditto! You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for
days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited, that I put
them up just to bait you,.... a total stranger. I don't know what your
motive is but I have a good idea. Again, try and have a happy holiday.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited
===================
I HAVE seen the pictures and it's PROOF that you are housing them in
tiny Ivy bowls.

## What tiny ivy bowls? These bowls hold slightly less than 1/2 gallon of
water and are changed weekly. Ammonia and nitrites are zero.

That is UNSUITABLE for housing Bettas!

## In your opinion. Millions of bettas are housed in smaller containers
than these.

In your pictures that boast about, it clearly shows things around them
for size comparison.

## So? These hold slightly less than 1/2 gallon of water. Ammonia and
nitrites are zero.

They are much too tiny to house Bettas in. It's cruel.

## That's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not know
where they're going to end up. Next you'll claim you personally visit every
household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
filtered tanks. That must take at least 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365
days a year......... when do you have time for anything else?

And damned right I'm ragging at you for it because you seem to think
it's all fine and dandy.

## You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. They live 4
years, sometimes longer in these bowls and jars, are well fed and can see
each other, us and look out the window. Now if you're so concerned you can
donate 9 or 10 heated filtered 2 gallon tanks and I will try and find space
for them somewhere in my sunroom.

It simply is not right.

## Nor is it right for you to force your views on someone else who has
successfully kept and bred bettas themselves.

You wouldn't house a Koi, fully grown in a 20g tank would you?

## Now you're going to compare them with koi? I don't think so.....

Same difference. Yet you think it's perfectly fine to do it to Bettas.

## What am I doing to them? Next you'll claim you personally visit every
household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
filtered tanks. That must take at least 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365
days a year......... when do you have time for anything else? Do you
purchase heated, filtered 2 gallon tanks for your culls and those unsold or
do you euthanize them? You must be very rich and live in a huge house.

Why on earth would you take proper care of only some of your animals?

## But that's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not
know where they're going to end up. Or do you personally visit every
household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
filtered tanks or special heated rooms to themselves.

Once again, Ivy bowls are MUCH too small

## Once again. I don't have ivy bowls. :-) If you'd care to send me 9 or
10 tanks complete with filters and heaters I will try and find space in the
sunroom. Too bad I'm not rich like you, huh? These are the prices,
rounded off that I found in catalogs and at PetSmart.

2 gallon tank = $10.00
25w submersible or short heater = $17.00
Thermometer = $3.00
Small Azoo filter w/extra pads = 7.00

Times 10 bettas = $370.00
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Koi-lo wrote:

I HAVE seen the pictures and it's PROOF that you are housing them in
tiny Ivy bowls.


## What tiny ivy bowls? These bowls hold slightly less than 1/2
gallon of water and are changed weekly. Ammonia and nitrites are zero.

That is UNSUITABLE for housing Bettas!

If that was the case how in hell she write millions of usenet posts
about nothing all day long?



## That's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not
know where they're going to end up.

LOL. She forgot the concept of buissnes here.



## You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.


He not giving out an opinion. He is giving out facts, something in your
life span you could never do.



## Nor is it right for you to force your views on someone else who has
successfully kept and bred bettas themselves.

I wonder who that "someone" is.... his facts are facts your opinions are
bogus and lies.


You wouldn't house a Koi, fully grown in a 20g tank would you?


Carolyn Adamo Gulley
Maiden name Witkowski born 1944
Current "husband":
Randy R. born 1946
3245 North Lamar Road Mount Juliet TN 37122-7806
Phone 615-459-9345

has been caught in various vicious lies!
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health NG
do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.

http://tinyurl.com/daw64
http://tinyurl.com/af4r9
http://tinyurl.com/7v5ly
When she is best by a man she accuse him of stalking

http://tinyurl.com/8wryt

She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's

Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on a religious organization in good standing in almost
every country in the world?

Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and
bandwidth on discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated
information. This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in
participating with her distributing false information elsewhere?

Facts about Carol:

*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why
bring it up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:


If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic you can report her. Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and
you may report her by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or by writing to:

DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA

Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com

Why does Carol behave as she does?


Carolyn Adamo Gulley of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever. She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as a
biker gangsters in the 60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she
has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.


She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain their
moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since. This has made her a very mentally unstable
woman, her hatred is intense, and due to biker-substance abuse
lifestyle, she now needs aid of a pacemaker.

By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries., and that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.

Koi-lo wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Koi-lo wrote:
Ditto! You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for
days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited, that I put
them up just to bait you,.... a total stranger. I don't know what your
motive is but I have a good idea. Again, try and have a happy holiday.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for days
now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited
===================
I HAVE seen the pictures and it's PROOF that you are housing them in
tiny Ivy bowls.

## What tiny ivy bowls? These bowls hold slightly less than 1/2 gallon of
water and are changed weekly. Ammonia and nitrites are zero.

That is UNSUITABLE for housing Bettas!

## In your opinion. Millions of bettas are housed in smaller containers
than these.

In your pictures that boast about, it clearly shows things around them
for size comparison.

## So? These hold slightly less than 1/2 gallon of water. Ammonia and
nitrites are zero.

They are much too tiny to house Bettas in. It's cruel.

## That's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not know
where they're going to end up. Next you'll claim you personally visit every
household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
filtered tanks. That must take at least 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365
days a year......... when do you have time for anything else?

And damned right I'm ragging at you for it because you seem to think
it's all fine and dandy.

## You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. They live 4
years, sometimes longer in these bowls and jars, are well fed and can see
each other, us and look out the window. Now if you're so concerned you can
donate 9 or 10 heated filtered 2 gallon tanks and I will try and find space
for them somewhere in my sunroom.

It simply is not right.

## Nor is it right for you to force your views on someone else who has
successfully kept and bred bettas themselves.

You wouldn't house a Koi, fully grown in a 20g tank would you?

## Now you're going to compare them with koi? I don't think so.....

Same difference. Yet you think it's perfectly fine to do it to Bettas.

## What am I doing to them? Next you'll claim you personally visit every
household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
filtered tanks. That must take at least 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365
days a year......... when do you have time for anything else? Do you
purchase heated, filtered 2 gallon tanks for your culls and those unsold or
do you euthanize them? You must be very rich and live in a huge house.

Why on earth would you take proper care of only some of your animals?

## But that's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not
know where they're going to end up. Or do you personally visit every
household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
filtered tanks or special heated rooms to themselves.

Once again, Ivy bowls are MUCH too small

## Once again. I don't have ivy bowls. :-) If you'd care to send me 9 or
10 tanks complete with filters and heaters I will try and find space in the
sunroom. Too bad I'm not rich like you, huh? These are the prices,
rounded off that I found in catalogs and at PetSmart.

2 gallon tank = $10.00
25w submersible or short heater = $17.00
Thermometer = $3.00
Small Azoo filter w/extra pads = 7.00

Times 10 bettas = $370.00
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Once again, Ivy bowls are MUCH too small

## Once again. I don't have ivy bowls. :-)

= O Bah Ha Ha Ha!!!
Oh that's a good one. You have 2 pictures showing IVY bowls lined up
with Bettas in them on your window sil.
You are so funny.
Oh, in case you are not aware of it "Carol", those tiny bowls that you
are housing Bettas in are called *Ivy bowls*. Stop saying that's not
what they are, as any one can see them in the pictures you have on your
web page.
Thanks for the laughs. = )~

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...

Koi-lo wrote:

## Once again. I don't have ivy bowls. :-)
=================
= O Bah Ha Ha Ha!!!

## Oh hehehehe and hahahaha!!!! Ivy bowls have the wavy top and hold 8 oz
of water... ahahahaha & hehehehe :-D

Oh that's a good one. You have 2 pictures showing IVY bowls lined up
with Bettas in them on your window sil.

## Uh, they're not ivy bowls. Ivy bowls have the wavy top and hold 8 oz of
water.

You are so funny.

## You are funnier! :-D

Oh, in case you are not aware of it "Carol", those tiny bowls that you
are housing Bettas in are called *Ivy bowls*.

## Where I live we call the 8oz glass bowls with the wavy tops *ivy bowls*
or potporri bowls. I have some of them for sure - with potpourri in them,
not fish. :-))

Stop saying that's not
what they are, as any one can see them in the pictures you have on your
web page.
Thanks for the laughs. = )~

## Yep, you're a real barrel of laughs! It must be nice to be rich, eh?
;-)

2 gallon tank = $10.00
25w submersible or short heater = $17.00
Thermometer = $3.00
Small Azoo filter w/extra pads = 7.00
Hood = $10.00

Times 10 bettas = $470.00
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Have you even looked at the pictures you have?
They're Ivy bowls.
It doesn't take a rich person to properly house the animals in their
care.
Say what you will....everybody knows you're a troll anyway.
I've had countless emails directly to me regarding YOU and the trouble
you cause elsewhere.
So sad you are.

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've had countless emails directly to me regarding YOU and the trouble
you cause elsewhere.
So sad you are.
=================
And I can say the same about you TROLLING me for days now simply because I
disagree with you. Since when are people who disagree with someone on a NG
a troll? You're also cross-posting your endless whining, wheedling,
insulting messages just like the guy with 200 names, including the use of my
name (impersonating me) - who killed rec.ponds. Do you plan to kill off
these NGs with your endless nasty messages?

If you are too net-illiterate to read headers you should LEARN how before
calling someone else a troll. BTW, you also need to look up the word TROLL.
You don't know the meaning of the word or you wouldn't be TROLLING me
now........ so give it up already. I'm not interested in your constant
trolling of me.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Tynk wrote:
Have you even looked at the pictures you have?
They're Ivy bowls.
It doesn't take a rich person to properly house the animals in their
care.
Say what you will....everybody knows you're a troll anyway.
I've had countless emails directly to me regarding YOU and the trouble
you cause elsewhere.
So sad you are.


You can always get a close up look at Carol's Ivy bowls directly

Carolyn Adamo Gulley
3245 North Lamar Road Mount Juliet TN 37122-7806
Phone 615-459-9345

You should know by know Caro is a hbitual liar and its her way or no
way as everyone else is wrong.....Betta thrive just fine in a small
bowl or large aquarium just fine, and only require minimal care. I
guess going on what the so called Guru of fish Carol states, all my
bettas in those 1 quart mason jars are doomed.......that is unless I
biuy Ivy contianers then they will be just fine.

On 23 Nov 2005 20:35:39 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

===
===Koi-lo wrote:
=== "Tynk" wrote in message
=== oups.com...
===
=== Koi-lo wrote:
=== Ditto! You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for
=== days
=== now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited, that I put
=== them up just to bait you,.... a total stranger. I don't know what your
=== motive is but I have a good idea. Again, try and have a happy holiday.
=== --
=== Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
=== My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
=== http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
=== ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
===
=== You've been baiting and ragging on me over this betta issue for days
=== now. Even seeing the pictures you think you're being baited
=== ===================
=== I HAVE seen the pictures and it's PROOF that you are housing them in
=== tiny Ivy bowls.
===
=== ## What tiny ivy bowls? These bowls hold slightly less than 1/2 gallon of
=== water and are changed weekly. Ammonia and nitrites are zero.
===
=== That is UNSUITABLE for housing Bettas!
===
=== ## In your opinion. Millions of bettas are housed in smaller containers
=== than these.
===
=== In your pictures that boast about, it clearly shows things around them
=== for size comparison.
===
=== ## So? These hold slightly less than 1/2 gallon of water. Ammonia and
=== nitrites are zero.
===
=== They are much too tiny to house Bettas in. It's cruel.
===
=== ## That's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not know
=== where they're going to end up. Next you'll claim you personally visit every
=== household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
=== filtered tanks. That must take at least 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365
=== days a year......... when do you have time for anything else?
===
=== And damned right I'm ragging at you for it because you seem to think
=== it's all fine and dandy.
===
=== ## You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. They live 4
=== years, sometimes longer in these bowls and jars, are well fed and can see
=== each other, us and look out the window. Now if you're so concerned you can
=== donate 9 or 10 heated filtered 2 gallon tanks and I will try and find space
=== for them somewhere in my sunroom.
===
=== It simply is not right.
===
=== ## Nor is it right for you to force your views on someone else who has
=== successfully kept and bred bettas themselves.
===
=== You wouldn't house a Koi, fully grown in a 20g tank would you?
===
=== ## Now you're going to compare them with koi? I don't think so.....
===
=== Same difference. Yet you think it's perfectly fine to do it to Bettas.
===
=== ## What am I doing to them? Next you'll claim you personally visit every
=== household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
=== filtered tanks. That must take at least 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365
=== days a year......... when do you have time for anything else? Do you
=== purchase heated, filtered 2 gallon tanks for your culls and those unsold or
=== do you euthanize them? You must be very rich and live in a huge house.
===
=== Why on earth would you take proper care of only some of your animals?
===
=== ## But that's YOUR OPINION. It's cruel to breed them, sell them and not
=== know where they're going to end up. Or do you personally visit every
=== household your thousands of young fish go to to make sure all get heated,
=== filtered tanks or special heated rooms to themselves.
===
=== Once again, Ivy bowls are MUCH too small
===
=== ## Once again. I don't have ivy bowls. :-) If you'd care to send me 9 or
=== 10 tanks complete with filters and heaters I will try and find space in the
=== sunroom. Too bad I'm not rich like you, huh? These are the prices,
=== rounded off that I found in catalogs and at PetSmart.
===
=== 2 gallon tank = $10.00
=== 25w submersible or short heater = $17.00
=== Thermometer = $3.00
=== Small Azoo filter w/extra pads = 7.00
===
=== Times 10 bettas = $370.00
=== --
=== Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
=== My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
=== http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
=== ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
===
=== Once again, Ivy bowls are MUCH too small
===
=== ## Once again. I don't have ivy bowls. :-)
===
=== = O Bah Ha Ha Ha!!!
===Oh that's a good one. You have 2 pictures showing IVY bowls lined up
===with Bettas in them on your window sil.
===You are so funny.
===Oh, in case you are not aware of it "Carol", those tiny bowls that you
===are housing Bettas in are called *Ivy bowls*. Stop saying that's not
===what they are, as any one can see them in the pictures you have on your
===web page.
===Thanks for the laughs. = )~



================================================== =


This is worth repeating for benefit of all newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS