bettas in plastic cups

"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" wrote in message
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NetMax wrote:


Their ref# 51539 (60 cm is a 24" tank) led he
http://www.bml.de/index-272804D294E2...9D9C2BC4C.html
but it requires some German fluency to do a proper search, and that's
not
a language I know.

If you need specific info, email me and I check it up for you.

Thanks but the 60cm might have been for the male with several females.
If they were recommending a minimum of 60cm for a single Betta, then I
would have been curious regarding their justification. If you have the
time and are inclined... I imagine that the article was credible enough
to include in fishbase.org.
--
www.NetMax.tk

The 60cm is a minimum size tank for long term housing ( and decribes a
standard size tank holding 54L - approx 14 US gallons )
There is a dispensation while holding for sale but a single male must have
at least I litre ( about 1/4 US gallon ) of temperature controlled water and
must have some plant or other decor in his container for stress prevention.
Water quality can be inspected and heavy fines can be levied.

Not a bad idea IMO.

Sue
PS My German is poor but I had help from Babelfish LOL.

"Sue" wrote in message
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The 60cm is a minimum size tank for long term housing ( and decribes a
standard size tank holding 54L - approx 14 US gallons )
There is a dispensation while holding for sale but a single male must
have at least I litre ( about 1/4 US gallon ) of temperature controlled
water and must have some plant or other decor in his container for
stress prevention.
Water quality can be inspected and heavy fines can be levied.

Not a bad idea IMO.

Sue
PS My German is poor but I had help from Babelfish LOL.


Thanks Sue. So 'holding for sale' is where Betta's can be kept in unique
conditions, and they consider normal conditions are more like what is
given to normal fish of that size.
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www.NetMax.tk

NetMax wrote:


Thanks but the 60cm might have been for the male with several females.
If they were recommending a minimum of 60cm for a single Betta, then I
would have been curious regarding their justification. If you have the
time and are inclined... I imagine that the article was credible enough
to include in fishbase.org.

This is a recommendation of the German Ministry responsible for animal
protection for keeping pet fishes (fishes kept for food production are
not covered in this recommendation). What they say is that small tanks
are more difficult to maintain and that therefore a tank size of 60 l is
recommended (54 l required) as a minimum for the permanent keeping of
fish. On top of that the tank needs to be big enough for the species,
size and number of fishes (their web site has a table with
recommendations for the most common species).

Note that this is for permanent keeping; transport, sale and similar
temporary activities can be done in smaller tanks where appropriate.

"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" wrote in message
...
NetMax wrote:


Thanks but the 60cm might have been for the male with several females.
If they were recommending a minimum of 60cm for a single Betta, then I
would have been curious regarding their justification. If you have
the
time and are inclined... I imagine that the article was credible
enough
to include in fishbase.org.

This is a recommendation of the German Ministry responsible for animal
protection for keeping pet fishes (fishes kept for food production are
not covered in this recommendation). What they say is that small tanks
are more difficult to maintain and that therefore a tank size of 60 l
is
recommended (54 l required) as a minimum for the permanent keeping of
fish. On top of that the tank needs to be big enough for the species,
size and number of fishes (their web site has a table with
recommendations for the most common species).

Interesting stuff. Do they list minimum tank size for other common fish,
like the Oscar, Goldfish and Angelfish?
--
www.NetMax.tk


Note that this is for permanent keeping; transport, sale and similar
temporary activities can be done in smaller tanks where appropriate.

NetMax wrote:
"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" wrote in message
...
NetMax wrote:


Thanks but the 60cm might have been for the male with several females.
If they were recommending a minimum of 60cm for a single Betta, then I
would have been curious regarding their justification. If you have
the
time and are inclined... I imagine that the article was credible
enough
to include in fishbase.org.

This is a recommendation of the German Ministry responsible for animal
protection for keeping pet fishes (fishes kept for food production are
not covered in this recommendation). What they say is that small tanks
are more difficult to maintain and that therefore a tank size of 60 l
is
recommended (54 l required) as a minimum for the permanent keeping of
fish. On top of that the tank needs to be big enough for the species,
size and number of fishes (their web site has a table with
recommendations for the most common species).

Interesting stuff. Do they list minimum tank size for other common fish,
like the Oscar, Goldfish and Angelfish?
--
www.NetMax.tk


Note that this is for permanent keeping; transport, sale and similar
temporary activities can be done in smaller tanks where appropriate.

This is a recommendation of the German Ministry responsible for animal
protection for keeping pet fishes (fishes kept for food production are
not covered in this recommendation). What they say is that small tanks
are more difficult to maintain and that therefore a tank size of 60 l
is
recommended (54 l required) as a minimum for the permanent keeping of
fish. On top of that the tank needs to be big enough for the species,
size and number of fishes (their web site has a table with
recommendations for the most common species).

Interesting stuff. Do they list minimum tank size for other common fish,
like the Oscar, Goldfish and Angelfish?
--
www.NetMax.tk


Yes....quite interesting!!!!

NetMax wrote:


Interesting stuff. Do they list minimum tank size for other common fish,
like the Oscar, Goldfish and Angelfish?

The 60 l recommendation is species-independent since it referes to the
difficulties of establishing biological equilibria in smaller tanks. But
specific conditions for various species are listed in a separate table
at
http://www.verbraucherministerium.de...1C0A8D816.html

In article ,
Dr Engelbert Buxbaum wrote:
NetMax wrote:


Thanks but the 60cm might have been for the male with several females.
If they were recommending a minimum of 60cm for a single Betta, then I
would have been curious regarding their justification. If you have the
time and are inclined... I imagine that the article was credible enough
to include in fishbase.org.

This is a recommendation of the German Ministry responsible for animal
protection for keeping pet fishes (fishes kept for food production are
not covered in this recommendation). What they say is that small tanks
are more difficult to maintain and that therefore a tank size of 60 l is
recommended (54 l required) as a minimum for the permanent keeping of
fish. On top of that the tank needs to be big enough for the species,
size and number of fishes (their web site has a table with
recommendations for the most common species).

Jah, but that is for a living room community tank, no? Certainly
the Germans I know with 50 4L tanks each with a pair of tiny
killifish have another opinion! :-) But I see your point
and frankly would recommend nothing less than a 30Gal, 120L
tank.

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