Nanocube or eclipse aquariums

I hate to tell you Dr. Englebert whatever.....but your far from being
correct in any statement you made....

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:33:15 +0100, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum
wrote:
wrote:

Greetings, I'm in the market for a compact marine fish only system and
have some questions regarding different options that are out there.
Here are my primary considerations:

1. Size. I live in a 1 bedroom apartment so I want something in the
15-25 gallon range. This is also why I want to get a system that is
"all in one" such as the nano cube, aquapod or eclipse.

2. Price. I want quality but not more firepower than I need for a fish
only system. It seems the nanocube and aquapods are better quality and
have better components than the eclipse models, but I'm not sure I need
the bells and whistles. I certainly don't want to spend more than I
need to.

3. Noise. I really want to keep the noise (especially mechanical noise)
to a minimum.

If you are on a restricted budget with little previous experience in
fish keeping, marine tanks are not to be recommended. The technical
setup is more complicated and expensive than fresh water, fish losses
are likely to be higher.

Nothing different than freshwater except for checking salinity...All
other tests still need to be done like Nitrate, nitrite, and ammonia
and PH.........Eclipse makes a basiclally plug and play setup suitable
for marine fish, if your carefull on what types you put in it, and
there is a heap of suitable small sized fish that will thrive happily
in a 12 gal Eclipse tank with no changes made to tank other than using
sal****er........There are many pico tank owners out there that keep
fish in 5 gal or less down to 1 gal or less contianing full reef
setups complete with fish or shrimp etc, and its not rocket sicience.
Its no harder tha keeping freshwater. I wold stay away from the JBJ
Nano cubes unless you like playing russian roulette, as they are very
prone to cracking, and they are not the best quaility materials used
to produce them.......Read some of the web forums for hundreds of
horrow stories on the JBJ Nano cubes.

Eclipes makes a 10, 12 and IIRC 24 or 29 gal which is more than
suitable for what yu want, however the tank itself is not a true
acrylic plastic, its more a clear styrene plastic, but you can buy
just the hood assembly which comes complete with filter, lights etc
built into it, and use it on a all glass tank.My local shop sells only
the hoods and right now they have a special on the largest size
Eclipse with everything needed, including proper bulbs for sal****er
reef, (can keep softies etc) live rock and live sand, heater, 5 pound
box of Instant Ocean salt, hydrometer to check Sg, coralife digital
thermometer, heater and some other assorted goodies for $199.00 out
the door.....No noise and perfectly fine for sw use.

In addition, most salt water fishes are caught from the wild, often by
using cyanide, which can destroy entire reef communities. Many fresh
water fishes, especially the typical beginner fishes like neons or
guppies, are bred in captivity.


I don;t know where you come from but better than 70 or 75 percent of
the fish sold in the shops here and at other places I frequent are all
tank rasied and bred.......not taken from the wild. The few that are
does not mean they use cyanide to catch them....


So why not take a nice freshwater tank? 25 gal (approx 100 l) is
already
a nice size. Put a lot of life plants in there to provide a nice home
for your fishes, then select fishes that fit to the water params of
your
tap water (in particular hardness). You'll get much more joy out of
that.


Why would he get more joy out of a freshwater than a sal****er.He
wants a sal****er and sal****er is not difficult........Folks have to
start somewhere so just where do you think he starts in his hobby of
fish keeping.......Just how much experieince does one have to have
before they go to sal****er..come on , perhaps you were hindered, but
its not hard unless your a real idiot.........if you can keep fresh
you can keep marine.plain and simple........

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