Making a pond from railway sleepers.

Because the folks want cross ties, thats why.What may be offensive and
disgusting to some is not to others, so why do folks in these forums
always have to change or try top sway folks minds...........Its like
this.......Who gives a flying **** what you have yur pond made out of,
they want sleepers, so get the **** over it folks, or do not reply
unless you can answer their quesiton as asked..They did not ask what
to make their pond out of now did they? As much as I hate to admit it
the bitch Carol came the closest to answering the post in the manner
of what they wanted to know.......Difficult to connect and heavy may
be to you a insurmountable task, to them may be not.....its their
decision..Go with the cross ties, its a good base and will last
forever .
We all have our own personal tastes and there is certainly nothing
wrong with sleepers......







On Tue, 02 May 2006 21:34:39 GMT, wrote:
railway sleepers are treated with really disgusting smelling preservatives that reek
when it gets hot. not to mention they are very bulky and difficult to connect
together. why not just construct a simple stud wall with green treated 2x4s and face
it on the inside with green treated plywood? here is mine
http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
Ingrid

"Ann Heanes" wrote:

GlacierHi,
Hubby is hoping to construct a new pond from railway sleepers. He is quite
happy about doing this without plans/help, I (on the other hand) would
prefer to see some instructions/help as it will be quite an expensive
undertaking. Is there any where on the internet where we could find
instructions and answers to any problems which may come up.
Thanks in advance.

-- Grannie Annie --
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Aquariums since 1956.
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** ~ A R T J A M E S ~ ** Roy's friend! wrote:
Because the folks want cross ties, thats why.What may be offensive and
disgusting to some is not to others, so why do folks in these forums
always have to change or try top sway folks minds...........Its like
this.......Who gives a flying **** what you have yur pond made out of,
they want sleepers, so get the **** over it folks, or do not reply
unless you can answer their quesiton as asked..They did not ask what
to make their pond out of now did they? As much as I hate to admit it
the bitch Carol came the closest to answering the post in the manner
of what they wanted to know.......Difficult to connect and heavy may
be to you a insurmountable task, to them may be not.....its their
decision..Go with the cross ties, its a good base and will last
forever .
We all have our own personal tastes and there is certainly nothing
wrong with sleepers......







On Tue, 02 May 2006 21:34:39 GMT, wrote:

railway sleepers are treated with really disgusting smelling preservatives that reek
when it gets hot. not to mention they are very bulky and difficult to connect
together. why not just construct a simple stud wall with green treated 2x4s and face
it on the inside with green treated plywood? here is mine
http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
Ingrid

"Ann Heanes" wrote:

GlacierHi,
Hubby is hoping to construct a new pond from railway sleepers. He is quite
happy about doing this without plans/help, I (on the other hand) would
prefer to see some instructions/help as it will be quite an expensive
undertaking. Is there any where on the internet where we could find
instructions and answers to any problems which may come up.
Thanks in advance.

-- Grannie Annie --
*))) (((*




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Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
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Now, railway sleepers certainly exude a number of resins...I use them in
my garden as ways of creating raised flower beds in an altogether flat
environment...but I will have to be with Carol and Roy here that if you
buy a good enough pond liner it will not be an issue....when we got the
kiddy area put in the landscape people were saying to us that we could
make a great Koi Pond up there once the kids grow up with the correct
pond lining.....they had a lot of experience in such things....the main
structure up there is railway sleepers buried deep as well as 2 foot
above the surface....just what I got told but validated by two very
experienced people on this newsgroup - shame I have to wait so many
years for the youngest not to want to play there...

Gill

Gill Passman wrote:

Now, railway sleepers certainly exude a number of resins...I use them in
my garden as ways of creating raised flower beds in an altogether flat
environment...but I will have to be with Carol and Roy here that if you
buy a good enough pond liner it will not be an issue...

Not for your pond - that's not where the issue really lies. If they're the
old creosote ones, they're not even safe for you to sit on. Even if you
don't believe in carcinogens, they ruin your clothes. As for the
possibility that they could last a generation - who wants that in an
ornamental pond? Where's the fun of rebuilding?
--
derek

On Wed, 03 May 2006 09:19:47 -0300, Derek Broughton
wrote:

Gill Passman wrote:

Now, railway sleepers certainly exude a number of resins...I use them in
my garden as ways of creating raised flower beds in an altogether flat
environment...but I will have to be with Carol and Roy here that if you
buy a good enough pond liner it will not be an issue...

Not for your pond - that's not where the issue really lies. If they're the
old creosote ones, they're not even safe for you to sit on. Even if you
don't believe in carcinogens, they ruin your clothes. As for the
possibility that they could last a generation - who wants that in an
ornamental pond? Where's the fun of rebuilding?

All of my gardens are raised beds, framed with timber. I sidestepped
the entire railroad ties/pressure treated lumber/new less toxic
pressure treated lumber dilemma by purchasing 6x6 cedar timbers, 8
feet in length. Cedar is the northeast's poor person's version of
redwood, which is prohibitively expensive here. Cedar ages nicely, and
after ten years, mine have at the very least 10 more years of life in
them. They're not rot proof, but they are very resistant. I pay $10
per 8 footer, so their price is competitive with railroad ties and
better than any pressure treated lumber of the same dimensions. When I
began gardening 30 some years ago, I chose the organic route - not
because of some altruistic concern for mother nature, but because when
I began reading the labels on the bags of stuff used in conventional
gardening I was so completely lost and confused and knew that I would
not have the self discipline to follow all of the directions without
taking short cuts or throwing in a few extra handfuls here and there.
Same with the pressure treated lumber issue. By going directly to the
untreated lumber, I saved myself countless hours of digging through
all the information on the internet determining what the various
methods of preservation meant to me and my projects. I'd rather be
gardening or ponding instead of spending hours researching.

-- Mister Gardener
-- Pull the WEED to email me

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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
...

All of my gardens are raised beds, framed with timber.
============
As frugal gardeners we cut down some sickly looking cedar trees on our
property, trimmed them equal lengths and used them to make a raised bed out
front. It could have been lined for a shallow fish pond. Then we filled it
with rich black FREE topsoil that washes down from our neighbor's cow
pasture. Saved us a bundle.
--
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Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Utter" bull**** spews from yur mouth Carol................ya need to
get a life bitch.

On Wed, 3 May 2006 09:59:23 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:
*Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*

"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
m...

All of my gardens are raised beds, framed with timber.
============
As frugal gardeners we cut down some sickly looking cedar trees on our
property, trimmed them equal lengths and used them to make a raised bed out
front. It could have been lined for a shallow fish pond. Then we filled it
with rich black FREE topsoil that washes down from our neighbor's cow
pasture. Saved us a bundle.

Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://maketiny.com/1cT
My pics.
http://n5.se/1cR


*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Bull ****ing **** derek...it will ruin your clothes,,,,,,,,,,,duh! I
have a suggetsion for you and you alone. Go find a RR and lay across
or even just set on one of those long long steel things called rails.
Stay there until a train knocks your stupid whiney ass into the next
millenium......and then tell us what it was like.

On Wed, 03 May 2006 09:19:47 -0300, Derek Broughton
wrote:
Gill Passman wrote:

Now, railway sleepers certainly exude a number of resins...I use them in
my garden as ways of creating raised flower beds in an altogether flat
environment...but I will have to be with Carol and Roy here that if you
buy a good enough pond liner it will not be an issue...

Not for your pond - that's not where the issue really lies. If they're the
old creosote ones, they're not even safe for you to sit on. Even if you
don't believe in carcinogens, they ruin your clothes. As for the
possibility that they could last a generation - who wants that in an
ornamental pond? Where's the fun of rebuilding?

Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://maketiny.com/1cT
My pics.
http://n5.se/1cR


*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

..... derek...it will ruin your clothes,,,,,,,,,,,duh! I
have a suggetsion for you and you alone. Go find a RR and lay across
or even just set on one of those long long steel things called rails.

Not meaning to interrupt.... oh wait, I guess I am.... but I was kindda
hoping you'd lay low on all rec.ponders. I mean... after all, other than
support Carol, what has Derek "really" done to you? ~ jan (

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