Under tank external filters: water flooding problems?

I meant in the FILTER DEPARTMENT. Sorry, my oversight.

"Koi-Lo" Disclaimer: I am not the profane Koi-Lo posting from
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"violinconcerto" wrote in message
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Thanks for the advice thus far.

I am not prepared to drill a hole in my tank because I am not that
brave. If I decide to go that route, I will probably ask my retailer
to do it.

What happens if the glass cracks or breaks? Do they have insurance to
replace your tank? I personally would never have a tank drilled.

My only experience thus far is a 30 gallon fresh water tank since
Christmas. I am considering placing a larger tank in the family room
-- may a 90 to 110 gallon fresh tank.

Think WEIGHT unless it's a basement floor. Weight is definitely something
to consider. Also.... should there be an accident where will the water
go? I had a 30g split at the side during the night and the damage done to
the house was incredible. That included ruined carpeting on the main
floor to parts of the ceiling in the basement falling down. :-(

The reason of quoting the wet/dry filter is that it has both aerobic
and anaerobic properties. I thought that it will also give the water a
better chance to exchange with the air. Yet I am thinking about using
a spraybar for the water return anyways. I like the notion of a
canister filter. Yet I heard that they are a bear to clean.

My old Fluval was the pits to clean. I now use Aquaclears and am happy
with those. I read that the new canisters are easier to clean than the
old ones were.

With the larger tank size, othe than requiring a filter or filters of
high capacity, are there other considerations?

Weight and accidents. The basement is the safest place for larger tanks.

Thanks again.
--
Koi-Lo....


Have to disagree......
got 2 x 6 foot marines in the living room including one @700L
Ain't no way they are going into the basement with algal cultures while I
have 2 new rays!!!
Big tanks need to be in your face or ya may as well just have a bloody pond
outside......

On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:44:04 +1000, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:


"Koi-Lo" Disclaimer: I am not the profane Koi-Lo posting from
Earthlink.net wrote in message ...
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"violinconcerto" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks for the advice thus far.

I am not prepared to drill a hole in my tank because I am not that
brave. If I decide to go that route, I will probably ask my retailer
to do it.

What happens if the glass cracks or breaks? Do they have insurance to
replace your tank? I personally would never have a tank drilled.

My only experience thus far is a 30 gallon fresh water tank since
Christmas. I am considering placing a larger tank in the family room
-- may a 90 to 110 gallon fresh tank.

Think WEIGHT unless it's a basement floor. Weight is definitely something
to consider. Also.... should there be an accident where will the water
go? I had a 30g split at the side during the night and the damage done to
the house was incredible. That included ruined carpeting on the main
floor to parts of the ceiling in the basement falling down. :-(

The reason of quoting the wet/dry filter is that it has both aerobic
and anaerobic properties. I thought that it will also give the water a
better chance to exchange with the air. Yet I am thinking about using
a spraybar for the water return anyways. I like the notion of a
canister filter. Yet I heard that they are a bear to clean.

My old Fluval was the pits to clean. I now use Aquaclears and am happy
with those. I read that the new canisters are easier to clean than the
old ones were.

With the larger tank size, othe than requiring a filter or filters of
high capacity, are there other considerations?

Weight and accidents. The basement is the safest place for larger tanks.

Thanks again.
--
Koi-Lo....


Have to disagree......
got 2 x 6 foot marines in the living room including one @700L
Ain't no way they are going into the basement with algal cultures while I
have 2 new rays!!!
Big tanks need to be in your face or ya may as well just have a bloody pond
outside......

I agree, I put my tanks in most of the rooms of my house. I sure
wouldn't want to tuck them into a room where I couldn't see them.

The large, heavy tank question has been discussed at length in the
past. It is just reasonable to consider if your room construction can
support a ton over a small area of floor. My floors are concrete, no
serious problem. If your house is big enough to have these tanks,
chances are the construction is strong enough. However, considering
the costs involved isn't it wise to consider the stresses before
committing the money?

dick

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"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"Koi-Lo" Disclaimer: I am not the profane Koi-Lo posting from
Earthlink.net wrote in message ...
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

"violinconcerto" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks for the advice thus far.

I am not prepared to drill a hole in my tank because I am not that
brave. If I decide to go that route, I will probably ask my retailer
to do it.

What happens if the glass cracks or breaks? Do they have insurance to
replace your tank? I personally would never have a tank drilled.

My only experience thus far is a 30 gallon fresh water tank since
Christmas. I am considering placing a larger tank in the family room
-- may a 90 to 110 gallon fresh tank.

Think WEIGHT unless it's a basement floor. Weight is definitely
something to consider. Also.... should there be an accident where will
the water go? I had a 30g split at the side during the night and the
damage done to the house was incredible. That included ruined carpeting
on the main floor to parts of the ceiling in the basement falling down.
:-(

The reason of quoting the wet/dry filter is that it has both aerobic
and anaerobic properties. I thought that it will also give the water a
better chance to exchange with the air. Yet I am thinking about using
a spraybar for the water return anyways. I like the notion of a
canister filter. Yet I heard that they are a bear to clean.

My old Fluval was the pits to clean. I now use Aquaclears and am happy
with those. I read that the new canisters are easier to clean than the
old ones were.

With the larger tank size, othe than requiring a filter or filters of
high capacity, are there other considerations?

Weight and accidents. The basement is the safest place for larger tanks.

Thanks again.
--
Koi-Lo....

====================================
Have to disagree......
got 2 x 6 foot marines in the living room including one @700L

Lets hope none "fail" as did my old 30Long. As I said, the damage done to
the house and basement was considerable.

Ain't no way they are going into the basement with algal cultures while I
have 2 new rays!!!

Gotcha! :-))

Big tanks need to be in your face or ya may as well just have a bloody
pond outside......
--
Koi-Lo....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Rude or obscene messages posted by my impersonator.
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"Dick" wrote in message
...

I agree, I put my tanks in most of the rooms of my house. I sure
wouldn't want to tuck them into a room where I couldn't see them.

I was assuming he uses his basement to hang out as we and most of our
friends did. We spent as much time in our basement (warmer in winter and
cooler in summer) as we did upstairs. I wish I had a basement where I live
now.

The large, heavy tank question has been discussed at length in the
past. It is just reasonable to consider if your room construction can
support a ton over a small area of floor. My floors are concrete, no
serious problem. If your house is big enough to have these tanks,
chances are the construction is strong enough. However, considering
the costs involved isn't it wise to consider the stresses before
committing the money?

He can always add a few floor jacks under where the large tanks are, in his
basement, if it's unfinished.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:50:53 -0500, Koi-Lo None wrote:

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Dick" wrote in message
...

I agree, I put my tanks in most of the rooms of my house. I sure
wouldn't want to tuck them into a room where I couldn't see them.

I was assuming he uses his basement to hang out as we and most of our
friends did. We spent as much time in our basement (warmer in winter
and cooler in summer) as we did upstairs. I wish I had a basement where
I live now.

The large, heavy tank question has been discussed at length in the
past. It is just reasonable to consider if your room construction can
support a ton over a small area of floor. My floors are concrete, no
serious problem. If your house is big enough to have these tanks,
chances are the construction is strong enough. However, considering
the costs involved isn't it wise to consider the stresses before
committing the money?

He can always add a few floor jacks under where the large tanks are, in
his basement, if it's unfinished.

Practical and Froogle. Common sense reigns again.

--
Save The Planet For Another Day...

"-ED" wrote in message
news On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:50:53 -0500, Koi-Lo None wrote:

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

"Dick" wrote in message
...

I agree, I put my tanks in most of the rooms of my house. I sure
wouldn't want to tuck them into a room where I couldn't see them.

I was assuming he uses his basement to hang out as we and most of our
friends did. We spent as much time in our basement (warmer in winter and
cooler in summer) as we did upstairs. I wish I had a basement where I
live now.

The large, heavy tank question has been discussed at length in the
past. It is just reasonable to consider if your room construction can
support a ton over a small area of floor. My floors are concrete, no
serious problem. If your house is big enough to have these tanks,
chances are the construction is strong enough. However, considering
the costs involved isn't it wise to consider the stresses before
committing the money?

He can always add a few floor jacks under where the large tanks are, in
his basement, if it's unfinished.

-Practical and Froogle. Common sense reigns again.

Just never had a prob before is all. setup a lot of tanks now and had a lot
of people look at floor and say where is good and where not.
but yea depends on your floor, maybe we just build well over here or
something but I gotta house of heavy tanks and ya I flooded a few things in
me time.
but floods are part of the fun, get a bath level alarm and go play xbox 360.
if i had a cellar it would be a playpen for me birds.
heh heh

Ok consider that aeration, biological filtration and mechanical filtration
are not the same thing.
All three become more seperatly important in a big tank.
As do large ornaments, little ones look ****e.
taller plants, more powerful lights.
also a sturdy stand and thicker styrofoam.
You may need bigger powerboards to accomadate timers and more plugs.
Bigger tanks also cost more to heat, take longer to heat up and more need
more decholinator and medications or salt to treat.
Bigger tanks use more expensive equipment espec marine.
But they are stable, and can take more fish.
But little fish in big tanks is the secret to happy fish.

All Filters are good as long as the amount of bacteria growing on them
matches the amount of food being fed.
Maintain bacteria cultures by rinsing filter media with water from the fish
tank.
Big tanks with big stands have big areas to hide equipment, which I like.
4foot tanks can take advantage of commercial and cheap 4 foot light fittings
and tubes, while 4x2x2 and 6x2x2, infact any ?x2x2 can take advantage of2x4
timber for construction of quick easy stands.

not exactly sure what your question was but heck this killed some time I
spose...
:P



"violinconcerto" wrote in message
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I meant in the FILTER DEPARTMENT. Sorry, my oversight.