SAE temperature tolerances

"Bill Stock" wrote in
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in this tank (10 g)

SAEs and this small tanks are not a good combination. SAEs grow easily up
to 5" or even longer, and they prefer to live in a big enough group. A 10g
tank is suitable as a short-time quarantine, but not as a permanent housing
for this fast swimmer.

I recommend you to find a bigger home for your remaining SAE. If you need a
good, small algae eater for a 10g tank with no strong water circulation,
think about pit bull pleco. It is small, it can tolerate rather high
temperature and it doesn't need as much oxygen as for example Otocinclus
catfish.

Liisa

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:31:31 GMT, Liisa Sarakontu
wrote:

"Bill Stock" wrote in
:

in this tank (10 g)

SAEs and this small tanks are not a good combination. SAEs grow easily up
to 5" or even longer, and they prefer to live in a big enough group. A 10g
tank is suitable as a short-time quarantine, but not as a permanent housing
for this fast swimmer.

I recommend you to find a bigger home for your remaining SAE. If you need a
good, small algae eater for a 10g tank with no strong water circulation,
think about pit bull pleco. It is small, it can tolerate rather high
temperature and it doesn't need as much oxygen as for example Otocinclus
catfish.

Liisa

My SAE in the 10 gallon tank lives with 2 Clown Loaches and Platties.
All are about 5 inches and seem just as colorful, lively, and healthy
as their 9 brethern in a 75 gallon tank.

It sure is frustrating to read about what isn't good when daily my
fish enjoy the same setting that is sooo undesirable. They have been
living in this "awful" condition for 3 years. They have yet to turn
down a meal or, worse yet, die.

The SAE and the 2 Clowns in the 10 gal swim together just as the 9
SAEs and 6 Clowns in the 75 gallon. I have a 29 gallon with a mix
which includes Clowns and SAEs. I just see no problem I can associate
with the 10 gallon tank.

dick



dick

"Liisa Sarakontu" wrote in message
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"Bill Stock" wrote in
:

in this tank (10 g)

SAEs and this small tanks are not a good combination. SAEs grow easily up
to 5" or even longer, and they prefer to live in a big enough group. A 10g
tank is suitable as a short-time quarantine, but not as a permanent
housing
for this fast swimmer.


Thanks Liisa,

I've actually got 3 SAEs left in the 10 g along with 3 Otos and 5 Cherry
Barbs. A lot of fish I know, but water parameters are never a problem in
this tank. My 55 gallon tends to accumulate more Nitrates (10 ppm) than my
10 g. Both are heavily planted, but the 55 has CO2.

The original plan was to move two of the SAEs to join there two friends in
the 55 gallon, but everyone has been so 'happy' that I did not want to mess
with success. Plus the Barbs in the larger tank can be aggressive, having
killed two of their own kind.

I can't say I've noticed any difference between the SAEs in the two tanks,
although perhaps the 10g SAEs are a little more skittish. The SAEs are the
only fish in the 10g that know when it's feeding time. They don't beg like
my GF in my other tank/pond, but they definately get excited about their
food. :-)

A 29 would be nice for the office, but then I'd need a stronger desk.






I recommend you to find a bigger home for your remaining SAE. If you need
a
good, small algae eater for a 10g tank with no strong water circulation,
think about pit bull pleco. It is small, it can tolerate rather high
temperature and it doesn't need as much oxygen as for example Otocinclus
catfish.

Liisa

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:55:33 -0400, "Bill Stock"
wrote:


"Liisa Sarakontu" wrote in message
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"Bill Stock" wrote in
:

in this tank (10 g)

SAEs and this small tanks are not a good combination. SAEs grow easily up
to 5" or even longer, and they prefer to live in a big enough group. A 10g
tank is suitable as a short-time quarantine, but not as a permanent
housing
for this fast swimmer.


Thanks Liisa,

I've actually got 3 SAEs left in the 10 g along with 3 Otos and 5 Cherry
Barbs. A lot of fish I know, but water parameters are never a problem in
this tank. My 55 gallon tends to accumulate more Nitrates (10 ppm) than my
10 g. Both are heavily planted, but the 55 has CO2.

The original plan was to move two of the SAEs to join there two friends in
the 55 gallon, but everyone has been so 'happy' that I did not want to mess
with success. Plus the Barbs in the larger tank can be aggressive, having
killed two of their own kind.

I can't say I've noticed any difference between the SAEs in the two tanks,
although perhaps the 10g SAEs are a little more skittish. The SAEs are the
only fish in the 10g that know when it's feeding time. They don't beg like
my GF in my other tank/pond, but they definately get excited about their
food. :-)

A 29 would be nice for the office, but then I'd need a stronger desk.



I had to laugh as I read your "feeding time" comment. I think SAEs
must have an internal alarm. As to skittish, the one SAE in my 10
gallon is never skittish, whereas one of the two Clown Loaches heads
for her ornamental home if I come close, the other Clown sticks around
to see what is happening.

During the first 2 years I had my SAEs, the 9 in the 75 gallon tank
would surrond my arm when I was cleaning the tank. They nibbled and
it tickled. I looked forward to their attention. One day it all
stopped. I was chasing platties, determined to separate the girls
from the boys. I had it with fry. I think the chasing spooked the
SAEs. I sure miss their attention.

I agree with you, don't mess with success. If I had listened to all
the cautions regarding Clown Loaches and SAEs, I would have missed out
on a lot of pleasure. I understand some people have gotten the large
ones. I haven't and based on my 10, 29 and 75 gallon tanks, I believe
neither tank size nor feeding makes the difference. My smallest Clown
is in the 75 gallon, the smallest SAE in the 29 gal.

dick



I recommend you to find a bigger home for your remaining SAE. If you need
a
good, small algae eater for a 10g tank with no strong water circulation,
think about pit bull pleco. It is small, it can tolerate rather high
temperature and it doesn't need as much oxygen as for example Otocinclus
catfish.

Liisa