Temperature for Goldfish

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"Peter Cashen" wrote in message
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I got a 60gallon tank... i think... its 60cmx30cmx40cm.

Anyway, put 3 goldfish and 4 white clouds in there.... first goldy died
after around 5 days.... now another one is just lying on the bottom of
the tank... it is feeding but not doin much else.

Put two thermometers in to be sure and they are at roughly 80F. I have
no heater.

Am I better off putting tropical fish in, is this why the fish are
dying?? Is it too hot!?!?

I'm in the UK and its hardly warm at the moment! And it isn't in
direct sunlight.... the lamp isn't on all the time...

Help... before I have a tank with no fish!!
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My outdoor goldfish survive outdoors in water that reaches the mid 90s.
If your GF are dying there is some other problem. What is the PH of your
tank? What are the ammonia and nitrite readings? Are any of the fish
dying in the shop's tank where you bought them? Is your tank filtered and
aerated? Is there excess food settling on the bottom and growing fur?


His tank is only 20 gallons and it does not sound like it's cycled.

First thing to check for is ammonia.

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"Köi-Lö" $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in message
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My outdoor goldfish survive outdoors in water that reaches the mid 90s.
If your GF are dying there is some other problem. What is the PH of your
tank? What are the ammonia and nitrite readings? Are any of the fish
dying in the shop's tank where you bought them? Is your tank filtered
and aerated? Is there excess food settling on the bottom and growing
fur?


His tank is only 20 gallons and it does not sound like it's cycled.

First thing to check for is ammonia.
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Yikes,... 7 fish in a 20g tank. I bet it is ammonia.
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"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"Peter Cashen" wrote in message
ups.com...
I got a 60gallon tank... i think... its 60cmx30cmx40cm.

Anyway, put 3 goldfish and 4 white clouds in there.... first goldy died
after around 5 days.... now another one is just lying on the bottom of
the tank... it is feeding but not doin much else.

Put two thermometers in to be sure and they are at roughly 80F. I have
no heater.

Am I better off putting tropical fish in, is this why the fish are
dying?? Is it too hot!?!?

I'm in the UK and its hardly warm at the moment! And it isn't in
direct sunlight.... the lamp isn't on all the time...

Help... before I have a tank with no fish!!
=====================
My outdoor goldfish survive outdoors in water that reaches the mid 90s.
If your GF are dying there is some other problem. What is the PH of your
tank? What are the ammonia and nitrite readings? Are any of the fish
dying in the shop's tank where you bought them? Is your tank filtered
and aerated? Is there excess food settling on the bottom and growing
fur?


His tank is only 20 gallons and it does not sound like it's cycled.

First thing to check for is ammonia.




Goldfish can be kept in a broad range of temperatures given the change in
temp is not too rapid or extreme.
I work in degrees C and about 22 degress c works well. Oddly enough however
the temp of 28 deg C has it's uses too. Although needing vigourous aeration
this temperature supports very few of the pathogens that would prey on a
weak inbred fancy goldy. A case of removing the prey from the predators
climate as it were.
Others prob have the right idea on your prob
I'd only ask, if you have a filter?

I have a Juwel Rekord 60 aquarium with built in filter.

I got it from a mate, not sure whether the sponges are set up
correctly!?!?

swarvegorilla wrote:
"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"Köi-Lö" $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in message
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"Peter Cashen" wrote in message
ups.com...
I got a 60gallon tank... i think... its 60cmx30cmx40cm.

Anyway, put 3 goldfish and 4 white clouds in there.... first goldy died
after around 5 days.... now another one is just lying on the bottom of
the tank... it is feeding but not doin much else.

Put two thermometers in to be sure and they are at roughly 80F. I have
no heater.

Am I better off putting tropical fish in, is this why the fish are
dying?? Is it too hot!?!?

I'm in the UK and its hardly warm at the moment! And it isn't in
direct sunlight.... the lamp isn't on all the time...

Help... before I have a tank with no fish!!
=====================
My outdoor goldfish survive outdoors in water that reaches the mid 90s.
If your GF are dying there is some other problem. What is the PH of your
tank? What are the ammonia and nitrite readings? Are any of the fish
dying in the shop's tank where you bought them? Is your tank filtered
and aerated? Is there excess food settling on the bottom and growing
fur?


His tank is only 20 gallons and it does not sound like it's cycled.

First thing to check for is ammonia.




Goldfish can be kept in a broad range of temperatures given the change in
temp is not too rapid or extreme.
I work in degrees C and about 22 degress c works well. Oddly enough however
the temp of 28 deg C has it's uses too. Although needing vigourous aeration
this temperature supports very few of the pathogens that would prey on a
weak inbred fancy goldy. A case of removing the prey from the predators
climate as it were.
Others prob have the right idea on your prob
I'd only ask, if you have a filter?

True I have no f clue what a juwel is set up like to tell the truth.
http://www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/filter_full.htm But the official website
sure does.
have a read, pictures too
:-).




"Peter Cashen" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a Juwel Rekord 60 aquarium with built in filter.

I got it from a mate, not sure whether the sponges are set up
correctly!?!?

swarvegorilla wrote:
"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...

"Köi-Lö" $##$$@$##$$.#$$ wrote in message
...

"Peter Cashen" wrote in message
ups.com...
I got a 60gallon tank... i think... its 60cmx30cmx40cm.

Anyway, put 3 goldfish and 4 white clouds in there.... first goldy
died
after around 5 days.... now another one is just lying on the bottom of
the tank... it is feeding but not doin much else.

Put two thermometers in to be sure and they are at roughly 80F. I
have
no heater.

Am I better off putting tropical fish in, is this why the fish are
dying?? Is it too hot!?!?

I'm in the UK and its hardly warm at the moment! And it isn't in
direct sunlight.... the lamp isn't on all the time...

Help... before I have a tank with no fish!!
=====================
My outdoor goldfish survive outdoors in water that reaches the mid 90s.
If your GF are dying there is some other problem. What is the PH of
your
tank? What are the ammonia and nitrite readings? Are any of the fish
dying in the shop's tank where you bought them? Is your tank filtered
and aerated? Is there excess food settling on the bottom and growing
fur?


His tank is only 20 gallons and it does not sound like it's cycled.

First thing to check for is ammonia.




Goldfish can be kept in a broad range of temperatures given the change in
temp is not too rapid or extreme.
I work in degrees C and about 22 degress c works well. Oddly enough
however
the temp of 28 deg C has it's uses too. Although needing vigourous
aeration
this temperature supports very few of the pathogens that would prey on a
weak inbred fancy goldy. A case of removing the prey from the predators
climate as it were.
Others prob have the right idea on your prob
I'd only ask, if you have a filter?