Bo0ger1, show me your tank...

Your correct. How would knowing this or not knowing this make any
difference for a WC or NWC tank. Is the water in your aquarium in better
shape than mine?

Yes, probably my water is better.

Probably? Elaborate here.


What proof do you have that a skimmer is a sufficient solution to the
topic
of coral toxins? Where is your SCIENCE, mister science boy?

It's Dr. Science Boy. Skimmers will remove any organic compound that is
amphiphilic in nature. Which coral toxin do you know of that is not
amphiphilic?

Do you use a charcoal or UV filter? Lots of reefkeepers swear by them as
well.
What function do you think they serve, if any, compared to just a skimmer
and
live rock/sand?

No, I don't use them. Charcoal is used as a filter agent. Not necessary.

UV filter? UV filters are used to reduce the amounts of waterborne
pathogens in your water. I don't recommend them.

Also: You realize, I hope, that your skimmer slowly removes "good" things
(like salt) from your water volume, along with "bad" proteins.

Ah, yep. Do you know how they remove proteins smart guy?

What is your strategy for replacing the lost salt? (Salt also decreases
due to splashing,
"salt creep", etc.) I'm sure you have evaporation too, and must add fresh
water regularly. How do you keep your level of salinity constant, using
only
freshwater and Essential Elements?

I add salt when salinity drops below acceptable levels. I top off with kalk
and RO water.


Do you measure your calcium levels? Calcium in the water volume gets used
up
by corals (and some other marine organisms). How do you keep your level
of
calcium sufficiently high?

I adjust my Ca levels with kalk. I do not directly measure Ca++ however I
do measure my total alkalinity. If my alkalinity and my pH are in
acceptable ranges than most likely my Ca++ is OK.

Your answers to all these questions betray a naive, arrogant, chem major
in
college with no practical experience at keeping a reef tank. You think
that
what you read in a book answers all questions that need to be answered,
without
any need for the complexity of the real world.

No. Science will answer all my questions that need to be answered. Does
your aquarium not obey the laws of science?

***Don. Why do YOU do water changes?

To quote you boog...sorry Dr. Boog:

"Ditto! I do the same thing, only I add Kent Marine essential elements
1once
a month or so. No water changes in 2-years! Just a little algae I need to
remedy.

These people here (for the most part) are brain washed into thinking you
need to water changes all the time."

So say that I don't want algae in my tank...(which, if I understand
correctly, indicate the presence of too many nitrates and phosphates
because algae use them as food)...should I still follow your system?

These people here (for the most part) are brain washed into thinking you
need to water changes all the time."

So say that I don't want algae in my tank...(which, if I understand
correctly, indicate the presence of too many nitrates and phosphates
because algae use them as food)...should I still follow your system?

I have a small patch in the back of the aquarium. It is starting to be
consumed (I added more red legged hermits). My algae is almost gone.

Are you suggesting that WC people 'never' get any algae? Please!

bo0ger1 wrote:
These people here (for the most part) are brain washed into thinking you
need to water changes all the time."

So say that I don't want algae in my tank...(which, if I understand
correctly, indicate the presence of too many nitrates and phosphates
because algae use them as food)...should I still follow your system?

I have a small patch in the back of the aquarium. It is starting to be
consumed (I added more red legged hermits). My algae is almost gone.

Are you suggesting that WC people 'never' get any algae? Please!


Algae's not all bad: I have algae growing in my tank but it's there
deliberatly, it's the Cheato I use to export nutrients. About 2 weeks
ago my foxface died and lodged behind the rockwork. I've been watching
the water parameters and the NO3 has risen to around 10ppm. The Chaeto
has gone into overdrive and I'm now pulling out big handfulls so I
guess things will be back to normal before long.

If they continue to deteriorate, I will start water changes until the
problem is corrected: I'm not a fanatical "water-change denier", I
just can't see the point for a tank that already has good water
parameters and stays that way on its own.

I've been away for a week, I used to have a large BTA, now it seems I
have 2 smaller BTAs and a confused looking pair of clowns. A bit
annoying as I've been waiting for it to happen so I could watch. Oh
well.

It's almost pointless talking to you No WC boobs.
But it amazes me that you refer to the rest of us as brainwashed.
We are a very large majority...we need more than what you give.

Write a publication, start a web site, share your info.
All you do is write in rec.aquaria.marine.reefs and ridicule everyone
for changing their water.

AGAIN...You still have NOT told us your complete
tank setup AND maint. routine.
How about a picture.

Remember this: Bo0ger1, show me your tank...


"Pat" wrote in message
...
To quote you boog...sorry Dr. Boog:

"Ditto! I do the same thing, only I add Kent Marine essential elements
1once
a month or so. No water changes in 2-years! Just a little algae I need
to
remedy.

These people here (for the most part) are brain washed into thinking you
need to water changes all the time."

So say that I don't want algae in my tank...(which, if I understand
correctly, indicate the presence of too many nitrates and phosphates
because algae use them as food)...should I still follow your system?