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Old February 4th 07, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
KurtG
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Can snails, conchs, etc. right themselves if I just dump them in the
tank and they land on their back?

--Kurt
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Old February 4th 07, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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No and Yes - in my experience at least. When I drop snails in, I make
sure they are somewhat locationed near the sand so they can get on
their merry way at their merry snails pace, but I have seen conchs
right themselves, and its actually pretty cool - they stick their leg
out or whatever it is and flip themselves right.

--Joe

On Feb 3, 9:21 pm, KurtG wrote:
Can snails, conchs, etc. right themselves if I just dump them in the
tank and they land on their back?

--Kurt



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Old February 4th 07, 04:00 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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I've never seen a Snail right themselves. I have several turbo and when the
tip over, I've watched them struggle but to no avail. Becareful with them if
they do tip and you have Hermit crabs, they will eat your snail .
"Joe" wrote in message
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No and Yes - in my experience at least. When I drop snails in, I make
sure they are somewhat locationed near the sand so they can get on
their merry way at their merry snails pace, but I have seen conchs
right themselves, and its actually pretty cool - they stick their leg
out or whatever it is and flip themselves right.

--Joe

On Feb 3, 9:21 pm, KurtG wrote:
Can snails, conchs, etc. right themselves if I just dump them in the
tank and they land on their back?

--Kurt





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Old February 4th 07, 01:38 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Snails (Stupid newbie question)

Turbo have a big problem righting themselves if they get knocked over
ontheir backs. Astra a dn cerith and nassarius and also the mexican
margaritta all do good at righting themselves. I quite buying turbos
for just this reason., Its a heck of a note seeing a snail updside
down in an inaccessible place in a tank unable to right
itself.......Astrea do just as good at what snails do as a turbo does
without the inherint problems turbos have.


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Old February 4th 07, 05:18 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Snails (Stupid newbie question)

KurtG wrote:
Can snails, conchs, etc. right themselves if I just dump them in the
tank and they land on their back?


Yes.

George Patterson
No one ever says "It's only a game." when his team is winning.
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Old February 5th 07, 06:20 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"Tristan" wrote in message ...
Turbo have a big problem righting themselves if they get knocked over
ontheir backs. Astra a dn cerith and nassarius and also the mexican
margaritta all do good at righting themselves. I quite buying turbos
for just this reason., Its a heck of a note seeing a snail updside
down in an inaccessible place in a tank unable to right
itself.......Astrea do just as good at what snails do as a turbo does
without the inherint problems turbos have.


I never had turbo snails, but Astrea are having problems on the sand.
Usually when they drop in the fine sand area with no rocks/rubble
nearby they are stuck and waiting for my magic stick to do the trick.

I always introduce new snails the way they are right side up on the
rocks - this way they at least have good start in the new place...

Turbo/astrea snails are living in the reef area where there is
no sand - every surface is hard around them. They did not need
to develop the ability to right themselves up. Compare to ceriths
or nassarius which naturally live in sand - they can do the trick.
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Old February 5th 07, 06:24 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"George Patterson" wrote in message news:Nzoxh.1182$hH2.243@trnddc02...
KurtG wrote:
Can snails, conchs, etc. right themselves if I just dump them in the
tank and they land on their back?


Yes.


Are we talking about sand bottom tanks ?
Because I would disagree with you then...

I have seen astrea snails being stuck on sand
turned upside down and not being able to
grasp anything hard in nearby to get leverage.

If you have sandy bottom in your tank never
just drop snails - place them on the rocks right
side up and watch them until they can walk...
I see many snails being stuck on the sand.
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Old February 5th 07, 03:02 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Snails (Stupid newbie question)

Pszemol wrote:
"Tristan" wrote in message
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Turbo have a big problem righting themselves if they get knocked over
ontheir backs. Astra a dn cerith and nassarius and also the mexican
margaritta all do good at righting themselves.


It seems that one or more of my hermits have learned this as well. They
will go after the turbo and then leave it on the sand bottom up. I
think I'll remove my larger ones from the reef tank. They are just a pain.

I did have a conch sighting and I found the shell for another. I have
no idea on the last one. It may be burrowed into the sand somewhere.

--Kurt
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Old February 5th 07, 03:52 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Snails (Stupid newbie question)

KurtG wrote:
Pszemol wrote:

"Tristan" wrote in message
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Turbo have a big problem righting themselves if they get knocked over
ontheir backs. Astra a dn cerith and nassarius and also the mexican
margaritta all do good at righting themselves.



It seems that one or more of my hermits have learned this as well. They
will go after the turbo and then leave it on the sand bottom up. I
think I'll remove my larger ones from the reef tank. They are just a pain.

I did have a conch sighting and I found the shell for another. I have
no idea on the last one. It may be burrowed into the sand somewhere.



One thought on why you lost the conch - acclimation, water paramters...

I found this on the "blue zoo aquatics" web page in relatio to conchs:

"This animal requires a long, slow drip acclimation period of no less
than 2-1/2 hours in order to properly adjust to the parameters in your
new aquarium. It requires the aquarium to maintain a salinity of 1.025 ppm."

For some of us (not me) 1.025 would be on the high side (I keep mine at
1.026'ish) And 2.5 hours is cartainly longer than a typical drip
acclimation. (you definitely can't just "bag float" these!)

Dunno if any of the above applies in your case, but figured I'd share it
in case any of it did.
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Old February 5th 07, 03:52 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Tristan
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Default Snails (Stupid newbie question)

In the gulf of mexico in the pan handle you can literaly gather up
handfulls of ceriths......LFS here get $3.98 each for them.....I often
bring back a bunch every time we collect water or go to the coast. YOu
read that critters as such collected in cooler waters never last long
in a reef type tank, however the pan handle of thre Gulf of Mexico is
not tropical by any degree of the imagination and I have never had a
problem with snails, or hermits or even some of the tiny damsels and
other critters lasting in a reef tank at temps of the 81-83 degree
range.....

My biggest issue with ceriths is that the typical hermits I keep loves
to kill em for new houses, even though I may have a bunch of suitable
shells in the tank,m they seem to prefer a fresh new house over a
discarded shell.......


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