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Old February 12th 07, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Default How old is my angle fish?

Cut it in half and count the rings!

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Old February 12th 07, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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rings...lol

yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement
is just the body huh?

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Old February 12th 07, 10:25 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Yes, fins are not included when referring to an angel fishs size.
The most common reference is coin size as I mentioned before. If some
one tells you its such and such old, they are blowing smoke up your
butt, s as there is just so many variables, and even one brand of food
compared to another is enough to make a difference as is good food and
all in the same spawn and there can be considerable differences... And
I am serious, you can count rings on a fishes scale and determine its
age fairly reliable, however most times a fish loses a scale its got a
healt problem or its dead, but it is possible to knock out a fish and
do a scope on its scale, but is there really a dire need to kno9w
exact age? I fyur looking for a fish to breed, its more than likely
alerady of suitable size to breed, as most of quarter or larger are
well within the range for breeding.
On 12 Feb 2007 14:15:12 -0800, "Mariachi" wrote:

rings...lol

yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement
is just the body huh?

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Old February 13th 07, 01:51 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Yea just the body.

It all depends. if you have a mutant, it might only be a week old, but
it's pretty safe to say it's about 1yr old. Mine's slightly bigger
that that at about 1.5yrs old.

Of course at some point they stop growing. I'm not sure how long they
are epected to live under good conditions........ depending of course.

Congrads on the angel. They're pretty amazing huh?

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Old February 14th 07, 01:53 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill
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Old February 14th 07, 03:08 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill


There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.

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Old February 14th 07, 04:03 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Nope, CArol Gulley can tell you the exact age of a fish just by a
description........She is one smart fish keeper.

On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.



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Old February 18th 07, 06:18 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are

already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they

are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have

such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6

foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.



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Old February 15th 07, 11:15 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Mariachi
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Default How old is my angle fish?

Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.



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Old February 16th 07, 04:06 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Feb 15, 5:15?am, "Mariachi" wrote:
Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food





There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.- Hide quoted text -


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Hi there.
Good choices on foods.....however, feed the beefheart sparingly. A
little bit is a good thing. I would also add frozen Brine Shrimp to
your feeding routine.
I prefer to feed a frozen food and a staple dry food every day. I feed
one of them in the morning and the other food gets fed at night.
I usually do the frozen in the evening, but that's just a habit of
mine.
As for why they are not pairing off....they may be too young still.
You haven't mentioned how long you have had these quarter to fifty
cent piece sized fish. It's also possible that you have all the same
sex. Yes...it does happen. Last year I bought a bunch of Pearlscale
youngsters and all but one were male!
You also have to know that Angelfish don't always care for the ones
you have picked out for them.
They simply may not fancy each other and not care to pair up. I've had
this happen many times over the years.
The tank may be too small for their liking, etc.
I know you're probably tired of hearing...too many vairables, but just
like growth...pairing off angels isn't always as simple as having
males and females in the same tank.
Don't forget to answer:
What size tank are they are in?
How long have you had them?

 




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