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Cut it in half and count the rings!
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rings...lol
yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement is just the body huh? |
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![]() Yes, fins are not included when referring to an angel fishs size. The most common reference is coin size as I mentioned before. If some one tells you its such and such old, they are blowing smoke up your butt, s as there is just so many variables, and even one brand of food compared to another is enough to make a difference as is good food and all in the same spawn and there can be considerable differences... And I am serious, you can count rings on a fishes scale and determine its age fairly reliable, however most times a fish loses a scale its got a healt problem or its dead, but it is possible to knock out a fish and do a scope on its scale, but is there really a dire need to kno9w exact age? I fyur looking for a fish to breed, its more than likely alerady of suitable size to breed, as most of quarter or larger are well within the range for breeding. On 12 Feb 2007 14:15:12 -0800, "Mariachi" wrote: rings...lol yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement is just the body huh? Sponsored in part by: The House of Carol Gulley© The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© Just say no to CArol Gulley! Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =- |
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Yea just the body.
It all depends. if you have a mutant, it might only be a week old, but it's pretty safe to say it's about 1yr old. Mine's slightly bigger that that at about 1.5yrs old. Of course at some point they stop growing. I'm not sure how long they are epected to live under good conditions........ depending of course. Congrads on the angel. They're pretty amazing huh? |
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Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot tank so perhaps grow quicker Gill |
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On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot tank so perhaps grow quicker Gill There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. I've also had many batches of fry. When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water will do to an Angelfish's growth. STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater sized babies. They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely warm water. Still, they didn't grow. All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't grow normally either if put into better conditions. To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any other information is irresponsible. To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a "guesstimate". When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. |
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![]() Nope, CArol Gulley can tell you the exact age of a fish just by a description........She is one smart fish keeper. On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" wrote: On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote: Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot tank so perhaps grow quicker Gill There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. I've also had many batches of fry. When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water will do to an Angelfish's growth. STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater sized babies. They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely warm water. Still, they didn't grow. All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't grow normally either if put into better conditions. To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any other information is irresponsible. To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a "guesstimate". When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know! |
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![]() Roy "Tristan" Hauer NET-STALKER of old grannies wrote in message ... Nope, CArol Gulley can tell you the exact age of a fish just by a description........She is one smart fish keeper. [REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Threats. Disturbance of the peace. Harassment. Stalking. Further attempts to intrude your hate filled messages will result in summary deletion of all your posts, unread, for a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Provide proof of all your fallacious allegations. Sponsored in part by: The House of Roy "Tristan" Hauer© The Roy Hauer Institute of Usenet Socks, Impersonators and Stalkers Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Hauer's Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Roy Hauer AKA Tristan Hauer Plonk Foundation© Just say no to Roy "Tristan" Hauer! Its not all about Roy "Tristan" Hauer, Trust me on that! Send Roy Tristan Hauer an Email.....tell him how you realy feel! Send Roy "Tristan" Hauer's ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" wrote: On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote: Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot tank so perhaps grow quicker Gill There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. I've also had many batches of fry. When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water will do to an Angelfish's growth. STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater sized babies. They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely warm water. Still, they didn't grow. All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't grow normally either if put into better conditions. To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any other information is irresponsible. To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a "guesstimate". When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know! |
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Thank you for your input.
The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read 2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4, bought on 2 sepearte occations..).. I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake and pellet food There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. I've also had many batches of fry. When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water will do to an Angelfish's growth. STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater sized babies. They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely warm water. Still, they didn't grow. All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't grow normally either if put into better conditions. To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any other information is irresponsible. To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a "guesstimate". When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. |
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On Feb 15, 5:15?am, "Mariachi" wrote:
Thank you for your input. The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read 2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4, bought on 2 sepearte occations..).. I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake and pellet food There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. I've also had many batches of fry. When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water will do to an Angelfish's growth. STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater sized babies. They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely warm water. Still, they didn't grow. All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't grow normally either if put into better conditions. To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any other information is irresponsible. To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a "guesstimate". When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi there. Good choices on foods.....however, feed the beefheart sparingly. A little bit is a good thing. I would also add frozen Brine Shrimp to your feeding routine. I prefer to feed a frozen food and a staple dry food every day. I feed one of them in the morning and the other food gets fed at night. I usually do the frozen in the evening, but that's just a habit of mine. As for why they are not pairing off....they may be too young still. You haven't mentioned how long you have had these quarter to fifty cent piece sized fish. It's also possible that you have all the same sex. Yes...it does happen. Last year I bought a bunch of Pearlscale youngsters and all but one were male! You also have to know that Angelfish don't always care for the ones you have picked out for them. They simply may not fancy each other and not care to pair up. I've had this happen many times over the years. The tank may be too small for their liking, etc. I know you're probably tired of hearing...too many vairables, but just like growth...pairing off angels isn't always as simple as having males and females in the same tank. Don't forget to answer: What size tank are they are in? How long have you had them? |
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