How old is my angle fish?

When sizing angle fish the fins are not included, and they generally
are sized in accordance with coin sizes.dime, nnickle, quarter, half
dollar etc etc...Odds are its more than 12 months unless it has had
high quality food and lots of it poured to it, and its from good
stock, but anyone that can claim they can tellthe age of a fish by
size is full of it, and thats what Zebulon aka Carol Gulley thinks she
can do....If you just have to know exactly, put a scale under a
microscope and count the rings/ ridges just like a tree...or if your
lucky enough like CArol Gulley she just asks her fish how old they
are, she has em all trained like that, being the professional breeder
that she is....or at least that what she would like to have you
believe......

There is just too many variables that affect size bogth during the
time it is an egg as well as a fry, to fingerling to juvi to adjust
hood that can affect size to age corelation....

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:49:51 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Mariachi" wrote in message
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erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less
than 6 months?
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At 2" it's surely older than 6 months. Are you INCLUDING the tail? They grow
at different rates of speed even under the same conditions. The better the
conditions and food, the better the rate of growth.

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Cut it in half and count the rings!

rings...lol

yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement
is just the body huh?

Yes, fins are not included when referring to an angel fishs size.
The most common reference is coin size as I mentioned before. If some
one tells you its such and such old, they are blowing smoke up your
butt, s as there is just so many variables, and even one brand of food
compared to another is enough to make a difference as is good food and
all in the same spawn and there can be considerable differences... And
I am serious, you can count rings on a fishes scale and determine its
age fairly reliable, however most times a fish loses a scale its got a
healt problem or its dead, but it is possible to knock out a fish and
do a scope on its scale, but is there really a dire need to kno9w
exact age? I fyur looking for a fish to breed, its more than likely
alerady of suitable size to breed, as most of quarter or larger are
well within the range for breeding.
On 12 Feb 2007 14:15:12 -0800, "Mariachi" wrote:

rings...lol

yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement
is just the body huh?

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Yea just the body.

It all depends. if you have a mutant, it might only be a week old, but
it's pretty safe to say it's about 1yr old. Mine's slightly bigger
that that at about 1.5yrs old.

Of course at some point they stop growing. I'm not sure how long they
are epected to live under good conditions........ depending of course.

Congrads on the angel. They're pretty amazing huh?

Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill

On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.

Nope, CArol Gulley can tell you the exact age of a fish just by a
description........She is one smart fish keeper.

On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.



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"Tristan" wrote in message
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Let me correct you on this, they will not be 2"

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:22 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Tristan" wrote in message
m...
I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again
carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something
right

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Let me CORRECT you on this one. I don't have to guess Roy Tristan
Hauer.
At 2" from lips to tail they can well be under 12 months. When raised
at
82F in good water conditions and feed live and frozen foods plus a
good
cichlid pellet, they grow FAST. Very fast!!!!!!!!!

If they're not, you're not feeding them enough often enough.

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Roy "Tristan" Hauer NET STALKER of old ladies and cripples
trolled us with this same old bull**** in
message ...
Truth be known. I "own" the bitch! Setting here right now looking at a
bill of sale marked Paid in Full...for 1 Bitch...........oh wait maybe
that was the one dog I bought! But I still own CArol with or without a
bill of sal;e. I say something , anyhting and she jumps through those
hoops and rings those bells just l ike a trained animal is taught to
perform in a circus. Her ex husbands taught her well!

"Mariachi" wrote in message
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erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less
than 6 months?