How old is my angle fish?

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Cut it in half and count the rings!

Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.

On Feb 15, 5:15?am, "Mariachi" wrote:
Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food





There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.- Hide quoted text -

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Hi there.
Good choices on foods.....however, feed the beefheart sparingly. A
little bit is a good thing. I would also add frozen Brine Shrimp to
your feeding routine.
I prefer to feed a frozen food and a staple dry food every day. I feed
one of them in the morning and the other food gets fed at night.
I usually do the frozen in the evening, but that's just a habit of
mine.
As for why they are not pairing off....they may be too young still.
You haven't mentioned how long you have had these quarter to fifty
cent piece sized fish. It's also possible that you have all the same
sex. Yes...it does happen. Last year I bought a bunch of Pearlscale
youngsters and all but one were male!
You also have to know that Angelfish don't always care for the ones
you have picked out for them.
They simply may not fancy each other and not care to pair up. I've had
this happen many times over the years.
The tank may be too small for their liking, etc.
I know you're probably tired of hearing...too many vairables, but just
like growth...pairing off angels isn't always as simple as having
males and females in the same tank.
Don't forget to answer:
What size tank are they are in?
How long have you had them?

"Mariachi" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.

Hi folks

I have just returned to fish-keeping after a break of about 16 years and
have always had a soft spot for angels. I bought a 48x18x18 tank at
Christmas, set it up and ran it with some tiger barbs and then acquired an
Angel about 3 weeks ago. Anyway I swear he has grown half an inch in 3
weeks. He was just over an inch when I got him and he is now over one and a
half inches. My children claim they see him growing every day!

There are some real positives for him. My water is naturally soft, PH from
the tap is around 7, but in the tank it has settled at 6.4. The tank has a
big external filter, Ammonia and Nitrite are always 0 and it is lightly
stocked. I feed twice a day, once on flakes and once on frozen food. I was
concerned about getting him as I was warned tiger barbs could nip his fins,
but he is clearly the boss. At feeding time he chases the barbs all over the
place.

Neb

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"Mariachi" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.

Hi folks

I have just returned to fish-keeping after a break of about 16 years and
have always had a soft spot for angels. I bought a 48x18x18 tank at
Christmas, set it up and ran it with some tiger barbs and then acquired an
Angel about 3 weeks ago. Anyway I swear he has grown half an inch in 3
weeks. He was just over an inch when I got him and he is now over one and
a
half inches. My children claim they see him growing every day!

There are some real positives for him. My water is naturally soft, PH from
the tap is around 7, but in the tank it has settled at 6.4. The tank has a
big external filter, Ammonia and Nitrite are always 0 and it is lightly
stocked. I feed twice a day, once on flakes and once on frozen food. I was
concerned about getting him as I was warned tiger barbs could nip his
fins,
but he is clearly the boss. At feeding time he chases the barbs all over
the
place.

Neb

Knock any old ladies in the head today Roy Hauer?

"Tristan" wrote in message
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I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again
carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Mariachi" wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches
from
mouth to tail?
=====================
It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according
to
water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're
probably less than a year old given average conditions.



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"Mariachi" wrote in message
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Thank you for your input.

The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired
yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read
2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so
lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be
causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them
decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4,
bought on 2 sepearte occations..)..

I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake
and pellet food

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.

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On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:

On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman wrote:
Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are
already
going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky
angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches
without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they
are
kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have
such
rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6
foot
tank so perhaps grow quicker

Gill

There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth.
I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs.
I've also had many batches of fry.
When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water
will do to an Angelfish's growth.
STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater
sized babies.
They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then.
They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely
warm water. Still, they didn't grow.
All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't
grow normally either if put into better conditions.
To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any
other information is irresponsible.
To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a
"guesstimate".
When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get
the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too.
However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will
grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water.
I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding
another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Thanks for your answers - I will invest in some frozen brine shrimp
next time I go to the fish shop...

The 4 angels i've got are in a 3 foot tank - I planned on taking the 2
back after they have paired up,...I"ve had them since november..and
they have definatly grown!!

On Feb 18, 5:24?am, "Mariachi" wrote:
Thanks for your answers - I will invest in some frozen brine shrimp
next time I go to the fish shop...

The 4 angels i've got are in a 3 foot tank - I planned on taking the 2
back after they have paired up,...I"ve had them since november..and
they have definatly grown!!

Mariachi....

Give them time too.
Last year I got a bunch of quarter sized Pearlscale Angels. I've had
them all for many months without any pairing off.
Well....I thought I had a possible pair but the female died suddenly,
so nothing ever came of it.
I recently added a new gold/goldmarble pearlscale cross to the mix and
since doing so, there has been a flurry of action.
Sometimes it just takes something you'd never think of to get things
moving.
Just last night I saw my Gold pearlscale and a Silver pearlscale that
were bought together last year....only last night they decided to pair
off and start cleaning the intake tube to the canister filter.
2 hours later they were spawning.
These 2 fish had never shown any liking for one another in close to a
year, and then all of a sudden they pair off and spawn the same day.
I am healing from foot surgery and cannot walk on one foot at all, so
I couldn't switch around tanks to put the pair in before they spawned.
I knew during the night the Bushynosed Pleco would get the eggs, and
he did. However, I wasn't prepared for them to do this so I accepted
the loss of their first batch. They should be good to go again in 2
weeks, so I have plenty of time to get my 6 yr old male Betta out of
the tank I plan on using for this pair. I also have to get the gravel
out and switch to a spong filter instead of the HOB filter.
The old Betta isn't going to appreciate getting moved to a 2 1/2g
tank, but he can sulk and give me the pout all he wants, hehe.
Oh...I have pics of the pair spawning too. If you would like me to
email a few to you, email me asking for them.
Pay no attention to the body shape of the male though, as he has more
a female's body.
He's a perfect example of why it's not always trustworthy to try and
sex angels via body shape.
Just remember to ask me via email though.