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Old June 19th 07, 08:26 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
Richard Sexton
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

In article ,
Dax MIckelson wrote:
Hello all. I've had a fish tank for most of my life. Recently I've
decided to create a tank that is mostly plants with some supportive fish.

I've created a substrate that is composed of vermiculite and soil (50/50
and about 2-3 inches deep) topped by about 1/2 inch of general purpose
sand. My plants are growing well and showing good color and my fish
look healthy too. HOWEVER, my substrate has swelled about 1/2 to 1
inch. If I push on it a ton of gas bubbles come out. Is this a bad thing?


It's not particularly bad. People still use vermiculite? That's so 80's :-)


(There's no particular advantage to using vermiculite, it's more important
to fertilize properly).




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Old June 19th 07, 02:03 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
Dax MIckelson
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

Richard Sexton wrote:

In article ,
Dax MIckelson wrote:
Hello all. I've had a fish tank for most of my life. Recently I've
decided to create a tank that is mostly plants with some supportive fish.

I've created a substrate that is composed of vermiculite and soil (50/50
and about 2-3 inches deep) topped by about 1/2 inch of general purpose
sand. My plants are growing well and showing good color and my fish
look healthy too. HOWEVER, my substrate has swelled about 1/2 to 1
inch. If I push on it a ton of gas bubbles come out. Is this a bad
thing?


It's not particularly bad. People still use vermiculite? That's so 80's
:-)


(There's no particular advantage to using vermiculite, it's more important
to fertilize properly).





Not vermiculite? That is all I've read about to use. I'm new to
aquascaping. What do you recommend then?
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Old June 19th 07, 04:36 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
Larry Blanchard
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

Dax Mickelson wrote:

Richard Sexton wrote:


(There's no particular advantage to using vermiculite, it's more important
to fertilize properly).


Not vermiculite? That is all I've read about to use. I'm new to
aquascaping. What do you recommend then?


EcoComplete.

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Old June 19th 07, 06:32 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
A. Paul. Ing
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

Why look...its the infamous turtle ****er Larry!

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:36:05 -0700, Larry Blanchard
wrote:

Dax Mickelson wrote:

Richard Sexton wrote:


(There's no particular advantage to using vermiculite, it's more important
to fertilize properly).


Not vermiculite? That is all I've read about to use. I'm new to
aquascaping. What do you recommend then?

EcoComplete.

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Old June 20th 07, 06:21 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
Gail Futoran
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

"Dax Mickelson" wrote in message
...
Richard Sexton wrote:

In article ,
Dax MIckelson wrote:
Hello all. I've had a fish tank for most of my life. Recently
I've
decided to create a tank that is mostly plants with some supportive
fish.

I've created a substrate that is composed of vermiculite and soil
(50/50
and about 2-3 inches deep) topped by about 1/2 inch of general
purpose
sand. My plants are growing well and showing good color and my
fish
look healthy too. HOWEVER, my substrate has swelled about 1/2 to 1
inch. If I push on it a ton of gas bubbles come out. Is this a
bad
thing?


It's not particularly bad. People still use vermiculite? That's so
80's
:-)


(There's no particular advantage to using vermiculite, it's more
important
to fertilize properly).





Not vermiculite? That is all I've read about to use. I'm new to
aquascaping. What do you recommend then?


There are a number of online articles that might
be helpful. Here is one that I found useful:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_substrate.htm

I use Profile with gravel over, and it works
well enough. I don't add CO2, use plants that
do well without much fuss (light, fert, etc.), and
I have small jungles in my tanks. Fish are
healthy, monthly partial water changes are
sufficient.

Gail


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Old June 20th 07, 06:47 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
A. Paul. Ing
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

well well well, wonder of wonders. Gail the idiotic bimbo bitch that
did not have the guts to follow up on becoming a mod for Ron
Schompert. She instead decided to suck Ron and Derejs dick full time
instead.




On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:21:29 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote:

"Dax Mickelson" wrote in message
...
Richard Sexton wrote:

In article ,
Dax MIckelson wrote:
Hello all. I've had a fish tank for most of my life. Recently
I've
decided to create a tank that is mostly plants with some supportive
fish.

I've created a substrate that is composed of vermiculite and soil
(50/50
and about 2-3 inches deep) topped by about 1/2 inch of general
purpose
sand. My plants are growing well and showing good color and my
fish
look healthy too. HOWEVER, my substrate has swelled about 1/2 to 1
inch. If I push on it a ton of gas bubbles come out. Is this a
bad
thing?

It's not particularly bad. People still use vermiculite? That's so
80's
:-)


(There's no particular advantage to using vermiculite, it's more
important
to fertilize properly).





Not vermiculite? That is all I've read about to use. I'm new to
aquascaping. What do you recommend then?

There are a number of online articles that might
be helpful. Here is one that I found useful:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_substrate.htm

I use Profile with gravel over, and it works
well enough. I don't add CO2, use plants that
do well without much fuss (light, fert, etc.), and
I have small jungles in my tanks. Fish are
healthy, monthly partial water changes are
sufficient.

Gail


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Old May 19th 11, 07:42 PM
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I use Profile with alluvium over, and it works well enough. I don't add CO2, use plants that do able-bodied after abundant fuss (light, fert, etc.), and I accept baby jungles in my tanks. Fish are healthy, account fractional baptize changes are sufficient.
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Old June 22nd 07, 07:37 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
Richard Sexton
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Default Gas buildup in my substrate

In article ,
Dax Mickelson wrote:
Richard Sexton wrote:

Not vermiculite? That is all I've read about to use. I'm new to
aquascaping. What do you recommend then?


Well, it's near heresy but mybest performing tanks have 1/2" of manure under 4-5" of fine beach sand.
Into the manure you put some washers and steel wool. Under anaerobic conditions the iron is reduced
and made available to the plants.


Here's a pic of it:

http://images.aquaria.net/plants/Cry...D/Image80s.jpg


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Old May 20th 11, 09:03 PM
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I've created a substrate that is composed of vermiculite and clay (50/50 and about 2-3 inches deep) topped by about 1/2 inch of accepted purpose sand. My plants are growing able-bodied and assuming acceptable blush and my fish look advantageous too.
 




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