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Old March 30th 04, 09:37 AM
Geezer From Freezer
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Boris wrote:

55g tank. artificial plants, community fish. Infested with those low
life snails. I want to kill them all. And painfully if possible.


Why would you want to kill them painfully? Sounds a bit nasty to me!
Loaches are the trick, failing that pick them out. Snails aren't necessarily
a bad thing!
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Old March 30th 04, 07:11 PM
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Geezer From Freezer" wrote in message
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Boris wrote:

55g tank. artificial plants, community fish. Infested with those low
life snails. I want to kill them all. And painfully if possible.


Why would you want to kill them painfully? Sounds a bit nasty to me!
Loaches are the trick, failing that pick them out. Snails aren't

necessarily
a bad thing!


Well, I can't think of a more painful way to die than being
eaten alive by a loach...


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Old March 31st 04, 02:13 PM
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coelacanth wrote:

Well, I can't think of a more painful way to die than being
eaten alive by a loach...


Being eaten is a quicker death than chemicals thats for sure!
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Old April 7th 04, 04:27 AM
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Ok,

This have probably been asked before but I have a tank with plants and
mostly tetras. I do have a ton of snails though. Are loaches too agressive
and if so is there some alternative other than salt (I was under the
impression that salt could be bad for tetras) or chemical Snail - B- Gone
type product?


"coelacanth" wrote in message
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Geezer From Freezer" wrote in message
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Boris wrote:

55g tank. artificial plants, community fish. Infested with those low
life snails. I want to kill them all. And painfully if possible.


Why would you want to kill them painfully? Sounds a bit nasty to me!
Loaches are the trick, failing that pick them out. Snails aren't

necessarily
a bad thing!


Well, I can't think of a more painful way to die than being
eaten alive by a loach...




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Old April 7th 04, 04:58 AM
NetMax
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"Tylan" wrote in message
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Ok,

This have probably been asked before but I have a tank with plants and
mostly tetras. I do have a ton of snails though. Are loaches too

agressive
and if so is there some alternative other than salt (I was under the
impression that salt could be bad for tetras) or chemical Snail - B-

Gone
type product?


Some loaches eat snail eggs. Can't recall which though, Bengals, Banded
something like that, long snout. Some snails also eat snail eggs (Nerita
or MTS possibly, also can't recall, must be an age thing ;~). Anyways,
if you have something which eats snail eggs, then you are left with
dealing with the adults. Not a very quick solution, but it keeps you
away from aggressive loaches and copper based snailacides which don't
really work anyways.

I think that the amount of salt needed to kill snails might be beyond
your tetra's threshold (and maybe even your plants). Maybe someone has
some practical experience they can share regarding salt dosages as a
snail killer.

NetMax


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Old April 7th 04, 05:20 AM
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"NetMax" wrote in message
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| some practical experience they can share regarding salt dosages as
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This salt dosage issue just keeps coming back to haunt you, eh?g

billy


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Old April 7th 04, 05:31 AM
Charles
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:58:53 -0400, "NetMax"
wrote:


"Tylan" wrote in message
newsyKcc.316$FE2.55@lakeread01...
Ok,

This have probably been asked before but I have a tank with plants and
mostly tetras. I do have a ton of snails though. Are loaches too

agressive
and if so is there some alternative other than salt (I was under the
impression that salt could be bad for tetras) or chemical Snail - B-

Gone
type product?


Some loaches eat snail eggs. Can't recall which though, Bengals, Banded
something like that, long snout. Some snails also eat snail eggs (Nerita
or MTS possibly, also can't recall, must be an age thing ;~). Anyways,
if you have something which eats snail eggs, then you are left with
dealing with the adults. Not a very quick solution, but it keeps you
away from aggressive loaches and copper based snailacides which don't
really work anyways.

I think that the amount of salt needed to kill snails might be beyond
your tetra's threshold (and maybe even your plants). Maybe someone has
some practical experience they can share regarding salt dosages as a
snail killer.

NetMax



Had-a-snail did nothing for my snails. Hex-a-mit killed most kinds.


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Old April 12th 04, 03:22 AM
Tylan
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Hi Guys

Thanks for all the helpful hints. I just thought I'd let you guys know
about the results. Well, there aren't any, yet. I went to Petsmart (I
know I can hear you groaning now) and can you believe they refused to sell
me ANY kind of loach / botia? The salesgirl told me they were all
incompatible, even the smaller varieties and refused to sell it to me. Then
she said, "You might try adding salt to your tank or Had-a-Snail." I said
that from research I had done and information given to me by users of this
group that the Had-a-snail doesn't work and the salt would be intolerable
for my fish and plants. She just kind of looked at me with a "well what do
you want me to do about it look" and said "I still can't let you have the
fish." I walked out and am never going back. Also fired off a nasty email
to PetSmart because I was tired of the Fish Tank inquisition every time I
wanted to buy something there anyway.

I'm trying to find a NICE local dealer here. I know of one in Lynchburg
(about an hour away) but I don't get down there very often. Anyone know
someone in the Roanoke, VA area? There is a spot I'm going to check out
this week just as soon as I get off the overnight shift. Wish me luck!

Thanks again.



"NetMax" wrote in message
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"Tylan" wrote in message
newsyKcc.316$FE2.55@lakeread01...
Ok,

This have probably been asked before but I have a tank with plants and
mostly tetras. I do have a ton of snails though. Are loaches too

agressive
and if so is there some alternative other than salt (I was under the
impression that salt could be bad for tetras) or chemical Snail - B-

Gone
type product?


Some loaches eat snail eggs. Can't recall which though, Bengals, Banded
something like that, long snout. Some snails also eat snail eggs (Nerita
or MTS possibly, also can't recall, must be an age thing ;~). Anyways,
if you have something which eats snail eggs, then you are left with
dealing with the adults. Not a very quick solution, but it keeps you
away from aggressive loaches and copper based snailacides which don't
really work anyways.

I think that the amount of salt needed to kill snails might be beyond
your tetra's threshold (and maybe even your plants). Maybe someone has
some practical experience they can share regarding salt dosages as a
snail killer.

NetMax




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Old April 12th 04, 03:56 AM
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"Tylan" wrote in message
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| Hi Guys
|
| Thanks for all the helpful hints. I just thought I'd let you guys
know
| about the results. Well, there aren't any, yet. I went to
Petsmart (I
| know I can hear you groaning now) and can you believe they refused
to sell
| me ANY kind of loach / botia? The salesgirl told me they were all


That's a new one. Usually they'll sell anything to anyone. I once
witnessed them selling 4 channel cats to a guy who said he had a ten
gallon. I don't recall what they called them.


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Old April 12th 04, 04:57 AM
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"Dinky" wrote in message
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"Tylan" wrote in message
news:_3nec.7303$VE5.5739@lakeread01...
| Hi Guys
|
| Thanks for all the helpful hints. I just thought I'd let you guys
know
| about the results. Well, there aren't any, yet. I went to
Petsmart (I
| know I can hear you groaning now) and can you believe they refused
to sell
| me ANY kind of loach / botia? The salesgirl told me they were all


That's a new one. Usually they'll sell anything to anyone. I once
witnessed them selling 4 channel cats to a guy who said he had a ten
gallon. I don't recall what they called them.


I've also met the type Tylan described. It's a case of extreme good
intentions coupled with insufficient information. It's usually a girl,
very environmentally aware and hates Siamese fighting fish because of the
containers they get sold from. They can get quite militant with their
beliefs. At the other more common extreme are the ones who will sell you
anything (usually it's a guy), and the more aggressive the fish, the more
they know about them (offering to feed the Piranhas for you to watch).
As commercial industries go, training is pretty weak in the fish trade
(.

NetMax


 




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