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August 2nd 04, 03:19 PM
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"P. Wright" wrote in message ... Yeah, did that today, and my suspicions were correct. Immediately threw them out. I don't understand why of all things snails would die. I thought they could survive when nothing else would. But it wasn't anything I did since they came that way. Oh well...I'm going to ask for some more snails from the online vendor. Thanks. Paul I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what it takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of them they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I can't figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have good filtration and identical water quality readings. They all have wood and live plants..... beats me  
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August 2nd 04, 03:35 PM
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|| I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what it
|| takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of them || they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I can't || figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have good || filtration and identical water quality readings. They all have wood || and live plants..... beats me In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com
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August 2nd 04, 04:17 PM
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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ... || I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what it || takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of them || they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I can't || figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have good || filtration and identical water quality readings. They all have wood || and live plants..... beats me In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com Wow - that's strange! I've got three dwarf frogs at home with 3 large snails and they just completely ignore them (so far anyway!). Maybe it's because the snails are bigger than the frogs Mary
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August 2nd 04, 04:40 PM
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"Mary E. Hill" wrote in message ... "RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ... || I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what it || takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of them || they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I can't || figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have good || filtration and identical water quality readings. They all have wood || and live plants..... beats me In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com Wow - that's strange! I've got three dwarf frogs at home with 3 large snails and they just completely ignore them (so far anyway!). Maybe it's because the snails are bigger than the frogs My frogs try without success to eat my snails...they just end up bouncing off the shells. I did notice a few days ago that my *ghost shrimp* were plucking baby snails out of the gravel and sucking them dry. I had never heard of that before, so it was kind of strange to watch.
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August 2nd 04, 05:17 PM
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|| "Mary E. Hill" wrote in message
||| "RedForeman ©®" wrote in message |||||| I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what |||||| it takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 |||||| of them they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I |||||| can't figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks |||||| have good filtration and identical water quality readings. They |||||| all have wood and live plants..... beats me |||| |||| In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf |||| frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... |||| |||| -- ||||| RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike ||| Wow - that's strange! I've got three dwarf frogs at home with 3 ||| large snails and they just completely ignore them (so far anyway!). ||| Maybe it's because the snails are bigger than the frogs ||| || || My frogs try without success to eat my snails...they just end up || bouncing off the shells. I did notice a few days ago that my *ghost || shrimp* were plucking baby snails out of the gravel and sucking them || dry. I had never heard of that before, so it was kind of strange to || watch. it's not that big of a snail, mine ate all the MTS out of the tank their in... ALL of them... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com
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August 2nd 04, 07:08 PM
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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ... |||| In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf |||| frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... I have no frogs. I have clown loaches in the larges tank, but they are not the reason why the snails die in there. They are not eaten, they just start floating after a day or so, then die. In the other two tanks where they do not survive, there are no snail eaters - same thing happen there. Really weird, but true I assure you I don't have mystery snails any in any tank at the moment, as the two tanks where they do live I now have fish I I'm trying to breed, and I do not trust the snails 100% not to eat the eggs or fry. I know they're not supposed to, I just don't trust them
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August 2nd 04, 07:59 PM
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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ...
|| I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what it || takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of them || they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I can't || figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have good || filtration and identical water quality readings. They all have wood || and live plants..... beats me In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com I agree with McEve...in my 10 gallon tank the snails just thrive! One apple snail I've had for over a year just died, his shell is almost the width of my fist! My BF got me a pinpoint one for a X-Mas gift this past year and she is on her way to becomming huge, as is the ramshorn I added about a year ago. I think access to plenty of food may be the reason, maybe even a peaceful tank where the fish don't stress them out provides a longer life. Snails are mysterious creatures, I just love watching them.
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August 2nd 04, 08:02 PM
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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ...
|| I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what it || takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of them || they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I can't || figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have good || filtration and identical water quality readings. They all have wood || and live plants..... beats me In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com One more thing I just thought of...all the tests kits make it a point to say that nitrates should be kept as low as possible when keeping inverts, perhaps that factors in?
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August 2nd 04, 08:33 PM
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|| "RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
||||| I've had apple snails, and found it hard to figure out just what ||||| it takes to make them survive and thrive. I have 5 tanks. In 3 of ||||| them they don't survive 3 days, in the other 2 they thrive. I ||||| can't figure out what the difference could be. All the tanks have ||||| good filtration and identical water quality readings. They all ||||| have wood and live plants..... beats me ||| ||| In the tanks where they DO NOT thrive, do you have African dwarf ||| frogs? Mine eat snails.... any kind, any size.... ||| ||| -- |||| RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike |||| streetfighter!!! ========================== |||| 2003 TRX450ES |||| 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) |||| '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... |||| ========================== |||| ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø ||||| ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º |||| for any questions you may have.... |||| www.gmail.com || || One more thing I just thought of...all the tests kits make it a point || to say that nitrates should be kept as low as possible when keeping || inverts, perhaps that factors in? You could be on to something.... -- | RedForeman ©® fabricator and creator of the ratbike streetfighter!!! | ========================== | 2003 TRX450ES | 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale) | '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted.... | ========================== | ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø | ((((º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ((((º ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ((((º | for any questions you may have.... | www.gmail.com
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