Flower horn cichlid fry with no tankmate.

Please help! I have a flower horn cichlid that seems fully grown.
(Approx. 8 inches)
I'm pretty sure she's a royal tiger.

Right now I have fry from her. This is the third time her eggs have
produced fry, from about five or six times of laying eggs.

She has NEVER had a tank mate and has been alone for over two years.
(Actually the first week I bought her, I tried to see if she would
coexist with a large geophagus. bad idea though, she killed the
geophagus that night).
I can't get an answer anywhere. How can she produce fry with no male?
It's been well over two years of solitude for her and I've had three
batches of fry.

This is a 29 gal tank. With an aqua clear 300 filter, and no tank
mates, in a tank with one large plant (she wrecks decorations like an
oscar, so just that is there). i feed her spirulina sticks and feeder
goldfish. And while they could be the culprit, even if i feed her a 1
to 2 inch plump goldfish, it barely hits the water before she sucks
them up.
this is no joke. i really only have a girlfriend and a neighbor to
verify it.
i'd really appreciate any info, especially please some help with the
fry that I've moved to a ten gal tank.
thanks.

have they got your eyes ???
LOL..

Brad...



"mjm0107" wrote in message
om...
Please help! I have a flower horn cichlid that seems fully grown.
(Approx. 8 inches)
I'm pretty sure she's a royal tiger.

Right now I have fry from her. This is the third time her eggs have
produced fry, from about five or six times of laying eggs.

She has NEVER had a tank mate and has been alone for over two years.
(Actually the first week I bought her, I tried to see if she would
coexist with a large geophagus. bad idea though, she killed the
geophagus that night).
I can't get an answer anywhere. How can she produce fry with no male?
It's been well over two years of solitude for her and I've had three
batches of fry.

This is a 29 gal tank. With an aqua clear 300 filter, and no tank
mates, in a tank with one large plant (she wrecks decorations like an
oscar, so just that is there). i feed her spirulina sticks and feeder
goldfish. And while they could be the culprit, even if i feed her a 1
to 2 inch plump goldfish, it barely hits the water before she sucks
them up.
this is no joke. i really only have a girlfriend and a neighbor to
verify it.
i'd really appreciate any info, especially please some help with the
fry that I've moved to a ten gal tank.
thanks.

Sorry, usually i stress that i had nothing to do with it. hehe.





"Brad" wrote in message ...
have they got your eyes ???
LOL..

Brad...



"mjm0107" wrote in message
om...
Please help! I have a flower horn cichlid that seems fully grown.
(Approx. 8 inches)
I'm pretty sure she's a royal tiger.

Right now I have fry from her. This is the third time her eggs have
produced fry, from about five or six times of laying eggs.

She has NEVER had a tank mate and has been alone for over two years.
(Actually the first week I bought her, I tried to see if she would
coexist with a large geophagus. bad idea though, she killed the
geophagus that night).
I can't get an answer anywhere. How can she produce fry with no male?
It's been well over two years of solitude for her and I've had three
batches of fry.

This is a 29 gal tank. With an aqua clear 300 filter, and no tank
mates, in a tank with one large plant (she wrecks decorations like an
oscar, so just that is there). i feed her spirulina sticks and feeder
goldfish. And while they could be the culprit, even if i feed her a 1
to 2 inch plump goldfish, it barely hits the water before she sucks
them up.
this is no joke. i really only have a girlfriend and a neighbor to
verify it.
i'd really appreciate any info, especially please some help with the
fry that I've moved to a ten gal tank.
thanks.

"mjm0107" wrote in message
om...
Please help! I have a flower horn cichlid that seems fully grown.
(Approx. 8 inches)
I'm pretty sure she's a royal tiger.

Right now I have fry from her. This is the third time her eggs have
produced fry, from about five or six times of laying eggs.

She has NEVER had a tank mate and has been alone for over two years.
(Actually the first week I bought her, I tried to see if she would
coexist with a large geophagus. bad idea though, she killed the
geophagus that night).
I can't get an answer anywhere. How can she produce fry with no male?
It's been well over two years of solitude for her and I've had three
batches of fry.

This is a 29 gal tank. With an aqua clear 300 filter, and no tank
mates, in a tank with one large plant (she wrecks decorations like an
oscar, so just that is there). i feed her spirulina sticks and feeder
goldfish. And while they could be the culprit, even if i feed her a 1
to 2 inch plump goldfish, it barely hits the water before she sucks
them up.
this is no joke. i really only have a girlfriend and a neighbor to
verify it.
i'd really appreciate any info, especially please some help with the
fry that I've moved to a ten gal tank.
thanks.

I know that guppies can store sperm for later use.. But don't know if
cichlids (hybrid or otherwise) can..

Might want to post here http://www.bloodparrot.aquariahobbyist.com/forum/ as
well. Some members have FH's..

Mar
--------------------------------------------------
If the poodle got loose, I figured I could take it. I was armed.
- Laurell K. Hamilton from the Anita Blake series

Thanks, this is the only real posibility i've heard of so far, but
can't get any confimation on it yet. thanks for the link


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"mjm0107" wrote in message
om...
Please help! I have a flower horn cichlid that seems fully grown.
(Approx. 8 inches)
I'm pretty sure she's a royal tiger.

Right now I have fry from her. This is the third time her eggs have
produced fry, from about five or six times of laying eggs.

She has NEVER had a tank mate and has been alone for over two years.
(Actually the first week I bought her, I tried to see if she would
coexist with a large geophagus. bad idea though, she killed the
geophagus that night).
I can't get an answer anywhere. How can she produce fry with no male?
It's been well over two years of solitude for her and I've had three
batches of fry.

This is a 29 gal tank. With an aqua clear 300 filter, and no tank
mates, in a tank with one large plant (she wrecks decorations like an
oscar, so just that is there). i feed her spirulina sticks and feeder
goldfish. And while they could be the culprit, even if i feed her a 1
to 2 inch plump goldfish, it barely hits the water before she sucks
them up.
this is no joke. i really only have a girlfriend and a neighbor to
verify it.
i'd really appreciate any info, especially please some help with the
fry that I've moved to a ten gal tank.
thanks.

I know that guppies can store sperm for later use.. But don't know if
cichlids (hybrid or otherwise) can..

Might want to post here http://www.bloodparrot.aquariahobbyist.com/forum/ as
well. Some members have FH's..

Mar
--------------------------------------------------
If the poodle got loose, I figured I could take it. I was armed.
- Laurell K. Hamilton from the Anita Blake series

In article ,
(mjm0107) wrote:

Thanks, this is the only real posibility i've heard of so far, but
can't get any confimation on it yet. thanks for the link

Cichlids can't store sperm - fertilisation is external.

Parthenogenesis? This is a serious suggestion - you have a deeply
hybridised fish, as I understand it Parthenogenesis can result from a
single mutated gene.

Roger Sleet
Roger's Aquatic Pages http://www.sleet.plus.com

|| (mjm0107) wrote:
||
||| Thanks, this is the only real posibility i've heard of so far, but
||| can't get any confimation on it yet. thanks for the link
||
|| Cichlids can't store sperm - fertilisation is external.
||
|| Parthenogenesis? This is a serious suggestion - you have a deeply
|| hybridised fish, as I understand it Parthenogenesis can result from a
|| single mutated gene.

I'm intrigued... can you elaborate more on this or provide links for more
info???

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is that better??

Well thank you all. I have six fry in a 10 gal tank, and so far so
good. usually the fry are a swarm of maybe over a thousand. but this
time the batch was smaller. in the end i still have six. i'm feeding
the wardley's fry food, and baby brine shrimp. this whole thing kinda
sucks because i can find very little info online about their breeding.
and the people in the pet stores are worse for flower horn info.
the parthenogenathingy is intersting. and will be looked at further.
really i'd like to contact someone in japan where these things are
very popular. but i can't find any routes online to ask them either.


"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ...
|| (mjm0107) wrote:
||
||| Thanks, this is the only real posibility i've heard of so far, but
||| can't get any confimation on it yet. thanks for the link
||
|| Cichlids can't store sperm - fertilisation is external.
||
|| Parthenogenesis? This is a serious suggestion - you have a deeply
|| hybridised fish, as I understand it Parthenogenesis can result from a
|| single mutated gene.

I'm intrigued... can you elaborate more on this or provide links for more
info???

--
RedForeman ©® future fabricator and creator of a ratbike
streetfighter!!! ==========================
2003 TRX450ES
1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
'98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
==========================
ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø


is that better??

In article ,
(RedForeman ©®) wrote:

|| (mjm0107) wrote:
||
||| Thanks, this is the only real posibility i've heard of so far, but
||| can't get any confimation on it yet. thanks for the link
||
|| Cichlids can't store sperm - fertilisation is external.
||
|| Parthenogenesis? This is a serious suggestion - you have a deeply
|| hybridised fish, as I understand it Parthenogenesis can result from a
|| single mutated gene.

I'm intrigued... can you elaborate more on this or provide links for
more
info???

I'm afraid not. The course I did on reproductive biology predates the web
by a couple of decades, so they didn't give us URLs :-(. I can't even
remember exact details of the genetic basis.

This is from memory and also 1970's genetics. We have come a long way
with both evolutionary genetics and developmental biology since then, and
what I was taught at the time may have been since disproven.

Roger Sleet
Roger's Aquatic Pages http://www.sleet.plus.com

In article ,
(mjm0107) wrote:

Well thank you all. I have six fry in a 10 gal tank, and so far so
good. usually the fry are a swarm of maybe over a thousand. but this
time the batch was smaller. in the end i still have six. i'm feeding
the wardley's fry food, and baby brine shrimp. this whole thing kinda
sucks because i can find very little info online about their breeding.
and the people in the pet stores are worse for flower horn info.
the parthenogenathingy is intersting. and will be looked at further.
really i'd like to contact someone in japan where these things are
very popular. but i can't find any routes online to ask them either.

As far as I am aware the exact origin of the Flower Horn is a secret known
only to it's original breeder. The thing is a multi species hybrid and as
such will be a total genetic mess anyway.

Roger Sleet
Roger's Aquatic Pages http://www.sleet.plus.com