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Old May 10th 04, 03:41 PM
Devin
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Default Water problems?

That all makes sense.

I actually do one of my water changes every month with no salt just for the
reasons you stated. I've thought of picking up a salinity meter, but
they're really expensive (even on eBay) and I just can't fit it into the
budget until I get back to work.

It sounds to me like what I should do is get another of the "media
containers" for my Emperor filter and just keep two of them in there, both
with batting. That way if I have to throw out one of them due to being
clogged, the other one will still have been in there for several weeks.
I'll order it from them this week.

I have no idea of the alkalinity of the water. I'll look for a test kit for
it today. I'm going to get two more live plants (already have one in there)
to replace the silk ones I removed.

FOOD- I forgot to mention the foods I use. I use the Hikari flakes and the
Marine Labs slow sinking pellets, alternating this as their morning food.
At night I feed them frozen brine shrimp or blood worms, thawed and rinsed
before being put in the tank. I feed green peas about once a week.

Devin

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there is no one salt level that is perfect, anything up to 0.1% is fine (1

tablespoon
per 5 gallons).... but it is best to slowly move up to that salt level and

1 teaspoon
is fine when a person doesnt KNOW what the natural salt level is in their

water!
people often have salt levels of 0.05% naturally, so adding less is

better.
salt tests are very important to prevent "salt creep" which is the

accumulation of
salts to higher and higher levels in the tank. example:
10 gallon tank, 2 gallons water evaporate but salt doesnt
remove water leaving 5 gallons behind, add 5 gallons + salt for 5 gallons.
that is salt creep. no salt should be added for the evaporated salt. not

to mention
natural salt levels will creep faster. it is even more likely to occur

with small
water changes. without a tester good idea to do big water changes once in

a while
and add no salt at all.

charcoal is just useless after a couple days in a tank with GF because GF

produce so
much wastes. it just isnt needed.

Batting loaded with biobugs looks brownish. you are throwing the colonies

away just
when they are forming up nicely. only toss batting when it begins to cut

down on the
water flow. and then only 1/2 and put in new to cycle before tossing it

all.

what is your alkalinity?



"Devin" wrote:
Salt levels are at just over 1 tablespoon per 10 gallons.
Why no charcoal? Just curious.
NEVER replace the batting, or just once a month? After 3 or so rinsings,

it
becomes pretty stained.



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Old May 10th 04, 06:55 PM
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pond salt test kit by aquarium pharmaceuticals.
alkalinity is measure of buffering and ability to resist swings in pH ... big swings
will harm GF.
put a pinch of the food in a glass of tank water and check for ammonia. some food
release it directly into the tank (good for fishless cycling tho)
if you can see GF poop, you are overfeeding. also, rinse filters once a week whether
they need it or not to get excess food/poop out which is just sitting there rotting
and fouling the tank.
it is not recommended to feed live or dried or frozen type foods to indoor tank fish.
however, somebody did a test found zapping food for 30 seconds in microwave killed
the cooties. Ingrid

"Devin" wrote:
I've thought of picking up a salinity meter,
I have no idea of the alkalinity of the water. I'll look for a test kit for
it today. I'm going to get two more live plants (already have one in there)
to replace the silk ones I removed.
FOOD- I forgot to mention the foods I use. I use the Hikari flakes and the
Marine Labs slow sinking pellets, alternating this as their morning food.
At night I feed them frozen brine shrimp or blood worms, thawed and rinsed
before being put in the tank. I feed green peas about once a week.
Devin



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Old May 10th 04, 10:27 PM
Devin
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Default More water tests

I grabbed a strip test kit earlier today. It tested the following:

PH 7.2
Alkalinity (KH) 80 ppm
Total Hardness (GH) 75
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrate 20ppm

I must have been overfeeding by your definition, I can see waste at times in
there. I had a hard time deciding how much to feed them, as a lot of places
say "as much as they will eat in 2 minutes". Well, my fish are swimming
piggies and would eat a 5 pound roast in 2 minutes! I'm cutting them back.
I'll also cut down the frozen food and try zapping it as well. They won't
be happy with that, though, they love that stuff.

I also got a new bubble bar today and will replace that tonight, to make
sure it doesn't have anything in it.

I guess the bio-wheel in the Emperor's doesn't keep enough bio-bugs in it?

Devin

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pond salt test kit by aquarium pharmaceuticals.
alkalinity is measure of buffering and ability to resist swings in pH ...

big swings
will harm GF.
put a pinch of the food in a glass of tank water and check for ammonia.

some food
release it directly into the tank (good for fishless cycling tho)
if you can see GF poop, you are overfeeding. also, rinse filters once a

week whether
they need it or not to get excess food/poop out which is just sitting

there rotting
and fouling the tank.
it is not recommended to feed live or dried or frozen type foods to indoor

tank fish.
however, somebody did a test found zapping food for 30 seconds in

microwave killed
the cooties. Ingrid

"Devin" wrote:
I've thought of picking up a salinity meter,
I have no idea of the alkalinity of the water. I'll look for a test kit

for
it today. I'm going to get two more live plants (already have one in

there)
to replace the silk ones I removed.
FOOD- I forgot to mention the foods I use. I use the Hikari flakes and

the
Marine Labs slow sinking pellets, alternating this as their morning food.
At night I feed them frozen brine shrimp or blood worms, thawed and

rinsed
before being put in the tank. I feed green peas about once a week.
Devin



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compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.



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Old May 12th 04, 04:18 PM
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Default More water tests

the 2 minute recommendation is fine for single tailed fish, altho the food goes in
and comes out pretty fast without all getting digested and then it just fouls the
water. but for fancies overfeeding is deadly.
correct, biowheels are good for trops, but GF are soooo dirty. Ingrid

"Devin" wrote:
I must have been overfeeding by your definition, I can see waste at times in
there. I had a hard time deciding how much to feed them, as a lot of places
say "as much as they will eat in 2 minutes". Well, my fish are swimming
piggies and would eat a 5 pound roast in 2 minutes! I'm cutting them back.
I'll also cut down the frozen food and try zapping it as well. They won't
be happy with that, though, they love that stuff.
I guess the bio-wheel in the Emperor's doesn't keep enough bio-bugs in it?




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