Goldfish appears to be seriously ill

Hi

I have 2 goldfish, one about 8 inches nose to tail and one about 6 inches.
They are approximately 8 years old. They are kept in a 140 litre tank with
an ehiem external filter, airstone & heater (about 22 celcius). Nitrates,
Nitrites and Amonia are all below measurable levels. The smaller of the 2 is
looking distinctly unwell - it is lying on its side on the the bottom with
its nose in the gravel and arched so it's tail is also on the bottom. When
disturbed it swims away and it is taking food pellets from the surface. It
does appear to have lost a few scales recently, also its scales are standing
on end - a bit like a porcupine. The other fish is OK. Grateful for any
advice.

Regards

Neil

In message , Neil Cummins
writes
Hi

I have 2 goldfish, one about 8 inches nose to tail and one about 6 inches.
They are approximately 8 years old. They are kept in a 140 litre tank with
an ehiem external filter, airstone & heater (about 22 celcius). Nitrates,
Nitrites and Amonia are all below measurable levels. The smaller of the 2 is
looking distinctly unwell - it is lying on its side on the the bottom with
its nose in the gravel and arched so it's tail is also on the bottom. When
disturbed it swims away and it is taking food pellets from the surface. It
does appear to have lost a few scales recently, also its scales are standing
on end - a bit like a porcupine. The other fish is OK. Grateful for any
advice.


Neil, I'm only replying because so far no-one has; I am not the person
to advise you at all, but the porcupine scales sound like dropsy, which
as I understand it can be a symptom rather than an illness in itself. I
can't give you any further info, I'm afraid :-( but there are a lot of
people here who know a lot and who may be able to help more.
--
sophie

http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disea...ame.htm#dropsy
read it all. arched does not have a good prognosis. Ingrid

"Neil Cummins" wrote:

Hi

I have 2 goldfish, one about 8 inches nose to tail and one about 6 inches.
They are approximately 8 years old. They are kept in a 140 litre tank with
an ehiem external filter, airstone & heater (about 22 celcius). Nitrates,
Nitrites and Amonia are all below measurable levels. The smaller of the 2 is
looking distinctly unwell - it is lying on its side on the the bottom with
its nose in the gravel and arched so it's tail is also on the bottom. When
disturbed it swims away and it is taking food pellets from the surface. It
does appear to have lost a few scales recently, also its scales are standing
on end - a bit like a porcupine. The other fish is OK. Grateful for any
advice.

Regards

Neil




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Thanks for the advice. Regretably, even after raising the temperature,
dosing with anti-bacteria treatments and hand feeding, Tickle died
yesterday. I am somewhat at a loss to know why - good water quality and his
mate (Slap) is fine. It's a bit of a loss - he was around 8 years old.

Neil


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http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disea...ame.htm#dropsy
read it all. arched does not have a good prognosis. Ingrid

"Neil Cummins" wrote:

Hi

I have 2 goldfish, one about 8 inches nose to tail and one about 6
inches.
They are approximately 8 years old. They are kept in a 140 litre tank
with
an ehiem external filter, airstone & heater (about 22 celcius).
Nitrates,
Nitrites and Amonia are all below measurable levels. The smaller of the 2
is
looking distinctly unwell - it is lying on its side on the the bottom
with
its nose in the gravel and arched so it's tail is also on the bottom.
When
disturbed it swims away and it is taking food pellets from the surface.
It
does appear to have lost a few scales recently, also its scales are
standing
on end - a bit like a porcupine. The other fish is OK. Grateful for any
advice.

Regards

Neil




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

8 years is getting on in age for a fancy GF. loss of immune system and homeostasis
starts to go when ya get old. sorry. Ingrid

"Neil Cummins" wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Regretably, even after raising the temperature,
dosing with anti-bacteria treatments and hand feeding, Tickle died
yesterday. I am somewhat at a loss to know why - good water quality and his
mate (Slap) is fine. It's a bit of a loss - he was around 8 years old.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.