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Old August 4th 03, 02:39 AM
K30a
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When you add stuff to kill algae you all af a sudden have lots of dead algae
bodies floating around.
This why we don't like chemicals. New algae will feed on the old algae.
Somebody here had a real problem with a black algae once. I think it was Carol.
And wasn't it a form of blue-green algae? Anyone remember? Carol are you out
there?

k30a
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Old August 4th 03, 11:02 AM
Sue Walsh
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Rich,
Does a pond EVER get to the point where it is clear and one can just
enjoy it, or do we always have cycling back and forth between clear
and clouded? I understand the theory of wait it out(and I agree), but
is there a light at the end of the tunnel?!?

Sue W

Rich wrote in message ...
Ponds cycle, Yes it was clear for a wile, then it will bloom or cycle for
three weeks or so. Let nature take it's coarse. You can run more pumps to
add O2 and filter with charcoal but time will help.
Good luck.

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Old August 4th 03, 12:43 PM
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Sue, Yes there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Your pond will usually cycle at 3 years. Just what I and\
others have found to be true.

Don't have 3 years ... you can keep on beating your head
against that wall :O)

Nedra
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"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
m...
Rich,
Does a pond EVER get to the point where it is clear and one can just
enjoy it, or do we always have cycling back and forth between clear
and clouded? I understand the theory of wait it out(and I agree), but
is there a light at the end of the tunnel?!?

Sue W

Rich wrote in message ...
Ponds cycle, Yes it was clear for a wile, then it will bloom or cycle

for
three weeks or so. Let nature take it's coarse. You can run more pumps

to
add O2 and filter with charcoal but time will help.
Good luck.




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Old August 5th 03, 02:39 PM
Sue Walsh
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"Nedra" wrote in message news
Sue, Yes there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Your pond will usually cycle at 3 years. Just what I and\
others have found to be true.

Don't have 3 years ... you can keep on beating your head
against that wall :O)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Nedra,
OK, so I'll be 61 when my pond clears, finally. So I'll wait, it will
give me something to look foward to, some excitement in my 'elderly
years' )

In the meantime (while I'm still young enough to understand) can
anyone explain to me why, while at my pond I have to wait(3 years)the
pond which we just put into the Botanical Gardens here in my town only
one month before mine, the water is and has been crystal clear after
the first month? We didn't do anything differently there than I do at
home. We don't add anything chemically to the botanical garden pond.
Why don't we have the same 3 year cycle there? The black and white
comparison is why it's so hard for me to understand this whole thing.
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Old August 5th 03, 03:29 PM
BenignVanilla
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"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
om...
"Nedra" wrote in message news
Sue, Yes there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Your pond will usually cycle at 3 years. Just what I and\
others have found to be true.

Don't have 3 years ... you can keep on beating your head
against that wall :O)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Nedra,
OK, so I'll be 61 when my pond clears, finally. So I'll wait, it will
give me something to look foward to, some excitement in my 'elderly
years' )

In the meantime (while I'm still young enough to understand) can
anyone explain to me why, while at my pond I have to wait(3 years)the
pond which we just put into the Botanical Gardens here in my town only
one month before mine, the water is and has been crystal clear after
the first month? We didn't do anything differently there than I do at
home. We don't add anything chemically to the botanical garden pond.
Why don't we have the same 3 year cycle there? The black and white
comparison is why it's so hard for me to understand this whole thing.


I can't say I know. I guess we Nedra to explain what she means by cycle. I
know my pond is just one season old now, and the water has "cycled" which in
my mind means it has built up enough bioligical mass to maintain water
quality. My fish, plants, algae and bacteria are balanced. When I stay OUT
of the pond, my water is gin clear.

BV.


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Old August 4th 03, 02:16 PM
BenignVanilla
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"Sue Walsh" wrote in message
m...
Rich,
Does a pond EVER get to the point where it is clear and one can just
enjoy it, or do we always have cycling back and forth between clear
and clouded? I understand the theory of wait it out(and I agree), but
is there a light at the end of the tunnel?!?

snip

My pond was infested with orange/clay water. I tried filters, flocculants,
etc. I didn't listen to advice to leave it alone. Then I got busy with work,
took a few days off to go camping, and wouldn't ya know...gin clear water.
The most important pond rule, IMHO, once you have everything in place, and
assuming you have proper filtration...STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND!!! As
simple as that.

I messed with mine this weekend. Moved some plants around, got in and pruned
a few, etc. Now I have cloudy orange water again. I ignored the SMWTDP rule,
and now I can't see my fish. Why am I smiling? Because I know I can SMWTDP
and it will soon be crystal clear.

BV aka The SMWTDP Man


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Old August 4th 03, 03:19 PM
john rutz
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K30a wrote:
When you add stuff to kill algae you all af a sudden have lots of dead algae
bodies floating around.
This why we don't like chemicals. New algae will feed on the old algae.
Somebody here had a real problem with a black algae once. I think it was Carol.
And wasn't it a form of blue-green algae? Anyone remember? Carol are you out
there?

k30a
and the watergardening labradors
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...ors/index.html



-- good memory K30 yup it was us

one of its causes is excess phosphate you can initiate a green algae
bloom which will compete with it for food and hopefully kill it, but it
usualy stays around till water cools in fall.

Rod gave us the formula for stump remover( copper sulfate ) to kill it

its one table spoon per 5000 gallons,1ppm repaeated every two weeks


if there are no plants dosage doesnt matter too much. I used three and
half lbs to kill mine




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

 




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