closed cycle pond question

I got in a big arguement with my neighbor last night. He has seen my
Koi pond and has decided that he wants one too. He found a contractor
who tells him he can install a 1000 gallon Koi pond and waterfall that
can support Koi without the need to feed them. The Koi will live off
the plants and algae. The contractor told him my pond was all wrong
because I had to feed my Koi and this led to occassional mildly cloudy
water. I think my neighbor is getting fed a line of BS. The
contractor charges a fortune. Oh yea, the contractor told him he
would have to make the pond out of granite, it is the only stone with
stable PH. My neighbor says that he hired a "professional" and I did
my pond myself.

Is there any truth at all in a 1000 gallon closed loop bio-pond for
Koi??

Doing a slow burn

Dave

(KoiDave) writes:

I got in a big arguement with my neighbor last night. He has seen my
Koi pond and has decided that he wants one too. He found a contractor
who tells him he can install a 1000 gallon Koi pond and waterfall that
can support Koi without the need to feed them. The Koi will live off
the plants and algae.

Probably, a few koi could survive in such a pond. They won't grow very
fast and that's ok for some people.

The contractor told him my pond was all wrong
because I had to feed my Koi and this led to occassional mildly cloudy
water.

'No feed' is a philosophy of ponding. It's a matter of preference
not right or wrong.

I think my neighbor is getting fed a line of BS. The
contractor charges a fortune.

Listen to him and copy his sales techniques :-)

Oh yea, the contractor told him he
would have to make the pond out of granite, it is the only stone with
stable PH.

This guy could sell ice boxes to eskimos.

My neighbor says that he hired a "professional" and I did
my pond myself.

He's right, lucky for you!

Is there any truth at all in a 1000 gallon closed loop bio-pond for
Koi??

Sure, absolutely possible! In fact, it's just like this highly successful
closed-loop scheme described below:

Glorious Opportunity To Get Rich!!! -- We are starting a cat ranch in Lacon
with 100,000 cats. Each cat will average 12 kittens a year. The cat skins
will sell for 30 cents each. One hundred men can skin 5,000 cats a day. We
figure a daily net profit of over $10,000. Now what shall we feed the cats?
We will start a rat farm next door with 1,000,000 rats. The rats breed 12
times faster than the cats. So we will have four rats to feed each day to
each cat. Now what shall we feed the rats? We will feed the rats the
carcasses of the cats after they have been skinned. Now Get This! We feed
the rats to the cats and the cats to the rats and get the cat skins for
nothing!

There are apparently a lotta people around with more money than brains. But
at least it's his money - it ought to cost a not-so-small fortune to build
an all-granite pond, even if it's only 1000 gallons - which is about right
for ONE Koi! I say, tell him to go for it, who wants to listen to all these
know-it-all porgs on rec.ponds!

Happy Ponding,
Tim
900 gallon open-loop goldfish pond

Take a look at Alan's post (8/17/03 3:18 PM): 22 yr self-sustaining pond.
Wonder what stocking level?

J

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"KoiDave" wrote in message
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I got in a big arguement with my neighbor last night. He has seen my
Koi pond and has decided that he wants one too. He found a contractor
who tells him he can install a 1000 gallon Koi pond and waterfall that
can support Koi without the need to feed them. The Koi will live off
the plants and algae. The contractor told him my pond was all wrong
because I had to feed my Koi and this led to occassional mildly cloudy
water. I think my neighbor is getting fed a line of BS. The
contractor charges a fortune. Oh yea, the contractor told him he
would have to make the pond out of granite, it is the only stone with
stable PH. My neighbor says that he hired a "professional" and I did
my pond myself.

Is there any truth at all in a 1000 gallon closed loop bio-pond for
Koi??

Doing a slow burn

Dave

Hmmmmmm. Maybe let him spend a fortune, screw it up, and then I can
save him! But, I will print up business cards first, "Dave's
Professional Pond Salvage". Then he will listen to me and I can
charge him big bucks!!

On another note. I have been very bad and not tested my water for a
very very long time. Seemed like no reason to. Was nicely surprised
that all parameters were near perfect. KH was a little low at 80.
With this heat, the biofilter must be working overtime.

Thanks,
Dave

"KoiDave" wrote in message
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I got in a big arguement with my neighbor last night. He has seen my
Koi pond and has decided that he wants one too. He found a contractor
who tells him he can install a 1000 gallon Koi pond and waterfall that
can support Koi without the need to feed them. The Koi will live off
the plants and algae. The contractor told him my pond was all wrong
because I had to feed my Koi and this led to occassional mildly cloudy
water. I think my neighbor is getting fed a line of BS. The
contractor charges a fortune. Oh yea, the contractor told him he
would have to make the pond out of granite, it is the only stone with
stable PH. My neighbor says that he hired a "professional" and I did
my pond myself.

Is there any truth at all in a 1000 gallon closed loop bio-pond for
Koi??

Was this professional's name, Gary?

BV.