Cold water

snip
BTW, Jan is absolutely right about checking the weather forecast; it's one
of those things that I'm so used to doing that I don't even realize I'm
doing it -- or to point it out to others. Anne
snip

Are you saying you check the weather to determine if you can feed your fish
or not?

If I may, she saying she checks the weather..... Like myself, Anne sounds
like she always has the weather open on her computer and updates it
regularly. Or do other people do that? The 3 things I have open all the
time, IE w/the weather, Eudora/E-mail, & Agent w/Rec.ponds. ;o)

I can't imagine day to day swings are that important are they? I
always thought it was a consistent ambient temperature (IE seasonal) that
was the issue. BV

All depends on your pond size. A large pond isn't going to be as affected
as a little pre-form, or even more so, an above ground pond with no
insulation around it. It's just a given that what ponder A can get away
with doesn't aways mean ponders BCDE&F can do so.

If one has a pond of 1,000 in full sun it may warm up to feeding temps, but
your filter isn't on line, bacteria doesn't wake up in a day or two. So
unless the weather report says it's going to stay warm, it's best not to
feed. Think of your filter, not the fish, because when you think of what
the filter is doing (or not doing) you are thinking in the best interest of
your fish.

Btw, Anne, Comets are longfinned single tailed goldfish. ) ~ jan


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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news
BTW, Jan is absolutely right about checking the weather forecast; it's
one
of those things that I'm so used to doing that I don't even realize I'm
doing it -- or to point it out to others.

Are you saying you check the weather to determine if you can feed your
fish
or not? I can't imagine day to day swings are that important are they? I
always thought it was a consistent ambient temperature (IE seasonal) that
was the issue.

BV.
WebPorgmaster
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Sorry, BV, what I meant was that ever since we discovered RoadRunner, we're
*always* online! And I'm used to the My Yahoo page with a weather section
that I customized (my house, son's house, where we're going next week, next
month, etc.) right next to the current stock prices. I'm not quite sure
what "consistent ambient temperature" is, but I don't think we have it in my
part of North Carolina! (I wasn't kidding when I said that it's a common
occurrence this time of year to use both furnace and A/C on any given day.)

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
snip
All depends on your pond size. A large pond isn't going to be as affected
as a little pre-form, or even more so, an above ground pond with no
insulation around it. It's just a given that what ponder A can get away
with doesn't aways mean ponders BCDE&F can do so.

If one has a pond of 1,000 in full sun it may warm up to feeding temps,
but
your filter isn't on line, bacteria doesn't wake up in a day or two. So
unless the weather report says it's going to stay warm, it's best not to
feed. Think of your filter, not the fish, because when you think of what
the filter is doing (or not doing) you are thinking in the best interest
of
your fish.
snip

I guess what I am not understanding is the purpose of daily weather checks.
It seems to me that no matter what the size of the pond, the daily snaps in
weather don't affect feeding. I stopped feeding a few weeks ago when temps
got below 50 consistently. If we have 60 or 70 degree day, I am not going to
go feed the fish.

Jan what am I misunderstanding here?


--
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There is a temperature at which the fish go dormant, and are not interested
in food, and one or two degrees warmer, they really start looking for food.
If you feed while they are looking for food, the day that a major cold front
comes through, the temperature of the pond can drop to that point that the
fish are not able to process the food faster than the fish have gotten it
all processed. This means that it stays in the gut and rots. If the
temperatures looking forward are for mild temperatures that will not cause
the pond to cool, then feeding may be permitted, though I don't recommend
it, while if the temperatures are predicted to drop significantly, you
should definitely refrain from feeding.
--
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
snip
All depends on your pond size. A large pond isn't going to be as
affected
as a little pre-form, or even more so, an above ground pond with no
insulation around it. It's just a given that what ponder A can get away
with doesn't aways mean ponders BCDE&F can do so.

If one has a pond of 1,000 in full sun it may warm up to feeding temps,
but
your filter isn't on line, bacteria doesn't wake up in a day or two. So
unless the weather report says it's going to stay warm, it's best not to
feed. Think of your filter, not the fish, because when you think of what
the filter is doing (or not doing) you are thinking in the best interest
of
your fish.
snip

I guess what I am not understanding is the purpose of daily weather
checks.
It seems to me that no matter what the size of the pond, the daily snaps
in
weather don't affect feeding. I stopped feeding a few weeks ago when temps
got below 50 consistently. If we have 60 or 70 degree day, I am not going
to
go feed the fish.

Jan what am I misunderstanding here?


--
BV posting from the train.
WebPorgmaster
www.IHeartMyPond.com
Help Support IHMP by shopping at Amazon.com thru our associates link,
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"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:%Lnzb.411410$Fm2.417794@attbi_s04...
There is a temperature at which the fish go dormant, and are not
interested
in food, and one or two degrees warmer, they really start looking for
food.
If you feed while they are looking for food, the day that a major cold
front
comes through, the temperature of the pond can drop to that point that the
fish are not able to process the food faster than the fish have gotten it
all processed. This means that it stays in the gut and rots. If the
temperatures looking forward are for mild temperatures that will not cause
the pond to cool, then feeding may be permitted, though I don't recommend
it, while if the temperatures are predicted to drop significantly, you
should definitely refrain from feeding.
snip

I guess that is what I am confused by this thread. When my temps got down to
an average low, I stopped feeding. I don't see how checking the temp today
is a good idea. I check the temp for what it is probably going to be for
awhile. I look at it as a seasonal issue, not a daily issue.


--
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Help Support IHMP by shopping at Amazon.com thru our associates link,
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I guess what I am not understanding is the purpose of daily weather checks.
It seems to me that no matter what the size of the pond, the daily snaps in
weather don't affect feeding. I stopped feeding a few weeks ago when temps
got below 50 consistently. If we have 60 or 70 degree day, I am not going to
go feed the fish.

Jan what am I misunderstanding here? BV

BV, you're not misunderstanding anything really. We would perfer most
people do as you do, but to those who just feel sorry for their wet pets,
and just can't help themselves, refer to the prior advice. ;o) ~ jan
See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website