new to koi need help in choosing a pond liner

Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz

Most of the preform ponds are smaller than 220 gallons. Generally speaking
they are too small for koi. A general rule of thumb used on rec.ponds is to
have 1000 gallons for the first koi, and 100 for each additional koi. Koi
grow large. My average size right now is probably close to 2 feet long.
The preformed ponds will definitely grow into larger liner ponds, or drive
you out of ponding if you have koi. I started with two preform ponds, some
goldfish, koi, and catfish. The catfish went to a farm pond at the end of
the first season. The preformed ponds got a liner pond added to the system.
The preformed ponds sprung leaks and got replaced with another liner pond.

If you want koi, start with a liner pond. Large ponds are more stable than
smaller ponds. If you want only a small liner pond, consider one of the
types of goldfish.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"rigz" wrote in message
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Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz

Most of the preform ponds are smaller than 220 gallons. Generally speaking
they are too small for koi. A general rule of thumb used on rec.ponds is to
have 1000 gallons for the first koi, and 100 for each additional koi. Koi
grow large. My average size right now is probably close to 2 feet long.
The preformed ponds will definitely grow into larger liner ponds, or drive
you out of ponding if you have koi. I started with two preform ponds, some
goldfish, koi, and catfish. The catfish went to a farm pond at the end of
the first season. The preformed ponds got a liner pond added to the system.
The preformed ponds sprung leaks and got replaced with another liner pond.

If you want koi, start with a liner pond. Large ponds are more stable than
smaller ponds. If you want only a small liner pond, consider one of the
types of goldfish.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"rigz" wrote in message
...
Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz

I have a 25' x 25' back yard and built a 4' deep pond, 2.5 below grade, 1.5 above.
it is 1600 gallons and I have 22 koi in there. the top dimensions are 6' across x
14' long or so. http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
Ingrid

(rigz) wrote:

Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

I have a 25' x 25' back yard and built a 4' deep pond, 2.5 below grade, 1.5 above.
it is 1600 gallons and I have 22 koi in there. the top dimensions are 6' across x
14' long or so. http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
Ingrid

(rigz) wrote:

Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Well my back yard is 18 x 22 and my wife doesnt want the pond taking
up the whole yard. I was going to get a 125gal pond I saw at
homedepot and start with that. I live in a town home and really cant
be digging up holes in the yard. I dont think the association would
aprove.

So I saw the 125 gal pond. How many small koi can I start with in
there?
What type of pump would I need?



wrote in message ...
I have a 25' x 25' back yard and built a 4' deep pond, 2.5 below grade, 1.5 above.
it is 1600 gallons and I have 22 koi in there. the top dimensions are 6' across x
14' long or so. http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
Ingrid

(rigz) wrote:

Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Well my back yard is 18 x 22 and my wife doesnt want the pond taking
up the whole yard. I was going to get a 125gal pond I saw at
homedepot and start with that. I live in a town home and really cant
be digging up holes in the yard. I dont think the association would
aprove.

So I saw the 125 gal pond. How many small koi can I start with in
there?
What type of pump would I need?



wrote in message ...
I have a 25' x 25' back yard and built a 4' deep pond, 2.5 below grade, 1.5 above.
it is 1600 gallons and I have 22 koi in there. the top dimensions are 6' across x
14' long or so. http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
Ingrid

(rigz) wrote:

Im moving to a townhome that only has a 18' x 22' yard. I was
thinking of getting one of those hard liners and building a raised koi
poind. I want to get at least 3 - 5 koi what size of a liner do i
need. remember I want one that is already molded.

Also if some one can point me to a site that might have a setup like
the one i want with the FAQs and howto set it all up that would be
great.

Thanks,

Rigz



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

none.

So I saw the 125 gal pond. How many small koi can I start with in
there?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

none.

So I saw the 125 gal pond. How many small koi can I start with in
there?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

What Rich said... ;-)

There are some really beautiful goldfish out
there, with flowing tails and different markings and colors. Just as pretty as
koi but not nearly the work and room that koi need.

Watch for BV's postings, he has a good page set up with info.


kathy :-)
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