fish euthanasia

"george" wrote in message
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"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes
if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle.
If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground
until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--

We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air
has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not
only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from
the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are
denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.

IMHO taking a fish out of water to put it out of misery would be akin to
tossing you into the pond and holding you under to end your suffering.

BV.

"Bill Oertell" wrote in message
...
Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount
of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture
for
fertalizer later.

You can't be serious. Can you?

BV.

"Roy" wrote in message
...

Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
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I hate to fullfill your prophecy, but kindly go plonk yourself. I agree that
we have some distinct opinions on this group, but the regulars and many of
the newbies are very tolerant. Hell, even Ingrid takes a beating on her Salt
opinions, but for the most part we all agree to disagree.

More importantly, Nedra is a very kind, and very informed ponder, especially
when it comes to Lotus. I can handl you initial opinions, but you can take
your belligerent, sophormoric attack on Nedra and gingerly place with where
the sun does not shine.

A bag and some budweiser? You can't be serious.

BV.

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:52:04 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
.. .

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria
NG's?

Yes, sometimes I take a drink but it does not interfere with the care
I take of my fish or the enthusiasm I feel for aquaria.

Nor ours, for our ponds.

BV.

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"george" wrote in message
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"Rodney Pont" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:02 GMT, george wrote:

This may sound insensitive to some, but he will die within a few minutes
if
you
just pull him out of the water, and place him in a proper recepticle.
If you
believe in "waste not, want not, you can always lay him on the ground
until he
dies, and then add him to your compost pile.

This can take a long time if the fish lies still. There is thirty times
more oxygen in air than in water and gills are very good at taking in
oxygen. Unfortunately without being supported in water they will
collapse so their surface area will be drastically reduced. How many
people have found an apparently dead fish outside the pond only too
have it revive when placed back in?

--

We're talking about a fish in it's last throes, dude. Just because air
has more
oxygen than water doesn't mean that they can utilize it better. Gills not
only
act as oxygen exchangers, but also eliminate toxins, such as ammonia, from
the
blood. They need water in order to function properly. When they are
denied
water, ammonia will build up in the blood very rapidly, killing the fish.

IMHO taking a fish out of water to put it out of misery would be akin to
tossing you into the pond and holding you under to end your suffering.

BV.


Would you rather that it languish for days in the pond until it dies? Oh, and
last time I looked, fish were not people. Are you suggesting that they are? Do
you eat fish? If so, does that make your a murderer?

Wow, I've been reading rec.ponds for about 4-5 years, had no idea it
was so bad. I honestly don't remember any flames, except for a
obnoxious guy a couple years back that was always going overboard with
the backwoods hardnose routine. Went by "Foxeye" or something like
that.

I also read about 12 other groups, I recognise you from a couple, by
far rec.ponds is the most docile and friendly.

I'm not real impressed with nedra all the time either, but you seem to
be really bent out of shape about it. Suggest you take a deep breath
and shake it off. Stress can kill! Ignore those who bug you.
Killfilters are your friend.

OTOH, didn't know re.aquaria existed, will probably read it for a
while now, thanks for the crosspost... how's that for a newsgroup
oddity? :-)

Mike

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:47:23 GMT, (Roy) wrote:


Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin

Who said she had to find out?

"Eric Schreiber" eric at ericschreiber dot com wrote in message
...
Bill Oertell wrote:

Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small
amount of water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can
use the mixture for fertalizer later.

That approach, while I agree is probably extremely fast, suffers from
one severe problem - your wife killing you for using her blender that
way.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

Hey, it'd be a helluva lot faster than some of the other methods that have been
recommended and the resulting mixture would actually have some (albeit, small)
use.

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Bill Oertell" wrote in message
...
Well...the deed's done now, but my vote would have been for a small amount
of
water and a blender. Ought to be real quick, plus you can use the mixture
for
fertalizer later.

You can't be serious. Can you?

BV.

Bill Oertell wrote:

one severe problem - your wife killing you for using her
blender that way.

Who said she had to find out?

Bill, Bill, Bill, don't you know that they *always* find out,
eventually?

--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

Holy Mackeral !!! I'm A pond bitch and rec.pond's Ice Queen; also wishes
that my pond freezes solid - with me in it. WOW! Actually I think the guy
has a flair for putting words on paper.
ROFLOL - My first howler of the day.

Nedra
Lotus Garden:
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
Backyard Pond:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836

"Mike Patterson" wrote in message
...
Wow, I've been reading rec.ponds for about 4-5 years, had no idea it
was so bad. I honestly don't remember any flames, except for a
obnoxious guy a couple years back that was always going overboard with
the backwoods hardnose routine. Went by "Foxeye" or something like
that.

I also read about 12 other groups, I recognise you from a couple, by
far rec.ponds is the most docile and friendly.

I'm not real impressed with nedra all the time either, but you seem to
be really bent out of shape about it. Suggest you take a deep breath
and shake it off. Stress can kill! Ignore those who bug you.
Killfilters are your friend.

OTOH, didn't know re.aquaria existed, will probably read it for a
while now, thanks for the crosspost... how's that for a newsgroup
oddity? :-)

Mike

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:47:23 GMT, (Roy) wrote:


Its been awhile since i posted to rec.ponds as it seems for the most
part to be there are a few selective little bunch of idealists with
their own concepts on how "ponding" should be...and everything else is
either flamed or filtered........I would think after this post of how
to efectively and quickly kill a fish that the pond bitch" Nedras"
filter is going to be pretty darn well max'ed out with new names to
plonk........
My method would have been cut its head off or just stick in a plactic
bag with some Budweiser.........

Y'all have a great day.............that is except for Nedra, I hope
her f**king pond freezes into a giant ice block along with her in it.
Nedra the Ice Queen of rec.ponds...............
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." -
Lily Tomlin